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Old Feb 24, 2004
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funny how GM says:
"An examination of the circumstances of the crashes and the vehicle involved indicated no vehicle condition was a contributing factor."
yet I am sure these people have been driving other cars. I mean, what, they get into this car and they all of a sudden forget how to drive? Come on GM....
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Cant say I am surprised about the Aveo.
I never liked them from the first time I saw them.
GM is just trying to get in on the tuner market that the Imports have been into for years. This is the result.


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Originally posted by Crashoveride
Cant say I am surprised about the Aveo.
I never liked them from the first time I saw them.
GM is just trying to get in on the tuner market that the Imports have been into for years. This is the result.


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i dont think gm tried to get into the "tuner scene" with this car. but dodge did punk imports with the srt-4 , kind of like beating someone at their own game.
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Originally posted by EManEX
This doesn't sound right so I went to the Chevy web site and looked at the Malibu Maxx and they have the 3500 series engine not a Honda engine. the 3500 was derived from the 3400 series which was an enlarged 3100.
I am pretty sure the Maxx has a Honda engine, do a search on google and see what you pull up.

I am sure Chevy does not want to advertise that they use Honda engines in their Malibu which is the Accords direct competition.

If they do advertise that it will make people think that GM cannot design and build their own engines, they have to rely on Japanese auto manufacturers.
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i dont know about the malibu having a honda engine i know saturns do use honda technology. BUT gm did build hondas new truck so it works both ways.
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Old Feb 24, 2004
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Sadboy916 is right. The Aveo is in no way competing in the tuner scene. The Cobalt will be.

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I did a seach and all the places I looked at mention the 3500 engine. As sadboy916 said Saturns uses the Honda engine; not on all of its cars.
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Anybody knows if the car rolled over or not because that wouldn't be a surprise in a car that is as tall as it is wide. The smalles wrong move on the steering will get that car all 4 in the air.
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The Cobalt is the only thing that they will have competing in the tuner scene. Pontiac doesn't have anything in it's line up planned (they haven't announced a new model based of the small platform but they will get a convertible)... Oh and there's Saturn with it's Redline... which I'm pretty sure hasn't come out yet...

The Aveo, will lose to Scions, but it might put up a fight with the Echo and Accent.
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As far as the engine goes, I bet they could use it as a selling point, "It's a Chevy, with a Honda engine, that's a good thing!"
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chevy and their stupid stupid ideas. anyone see their rediculous commercialls.
'the official car of staying out late" suck my D I C K
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Originally posted by CivicsRdBest
As far as the engine goes, I bet they could use it as a selling point, "It's a Chevy, with a Honda engine, that's a good thing!"
Thats not happening.

"... with a Honda engine..."
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Old Feb 25, 2004
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The Aveo, will lose to Scions, but it might put up a fight with the Echo and Accent.
I think you missed the point of the thread. The Aveo isn't going to be competing with anything, it's finished. GM is no longer selling them.
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Originally posted by Jollysid
I think you missed the point of the thread. The Aveo isn't going to be competing with anything, it's finished. GM is no longer selling them.
I'm sorry but its not finished; GM is still selling them.
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the aveo might suk, but the srt-4 is tight
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It sucks to be GM
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Thumbs down

I agree with all of you the Aveo is pure unadulturated crap! -did I spell that right? It's absolutely haneous! I agree with Jollysid all the compact american cars are crap but at least the Focus and new Neon look decent. Still would never consider buying an american car unless its a pick-up truck. I'll stick with my Honda, but thanks for the god-awful try Chevy!

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The Aveo is pure unadulterated crap! I agree with Jollysid that all the american compacts are crap, but at least the Focus and new Neon look decent. I'll stick with my Honda Civic but thanks for the try Chevy!
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Sorry didnt mean to post same thing twice, Im new to this.
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Originally posted by HomerSimpson
It sucks to be GM
rice boys are funny GM sells more cars than any other company in the world.
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Originally posted by sadboy916
rice boys are funny GM sells more cars than any other company in the world.
Yup, but just because somethings popular doesnt nessisaily mean its good
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dont even try really gm makes some of the sickest cars ever for example nothing rolling out of a jap assembly line is more bad *** than this.
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^i've seen sicker.
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Originally posted by EManEX
I'm sorry but its not finished; GM is still selling them.
GM has instructed it's dealers to STOP selling the car. What about that don't you understand? Some dealers may still try to move the Aveos left in their inventory, but it will be against GM's wishes.

There's a chevy dealer in Jersey selling them 2 for the price of 1! LOL!

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dont even try really gm makes some of the sickest cars ever for example nothing rolling out of a jap assembly line is more bad *** than this.

i dont think gm tried to get into the "tuner scene" with this car. but dodge did punk imports with the srt-4 , kind of like beating someone at their own game.

Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone bashing GM as a company. People have certainly agreed that the Aveo is a piece of garbage, but that's it. I would hope that no one is dumb enough to equate anything about the Aveo to the Vette. It's apples and oranges.

Your definetly right in saying this was not in an attempt to get in to the tuner scene. This car was built to compete with the ultra cheap(Hyundai, Kia, Toyota) econo market.

As far as "punking" imports with the srt-4, I'm not sure about that. They certainly didn't "punk" them in sales and in the end isn't that all that matters? The fact is that there really aren't any imports made specifically to be tuner cars, they just get adopted and modded that way. If a few years go by and people are actually buying the SRT-4 which is specifically made for tuners, it may motivate the japanese car companies to actually try and build their own tuner car. It could make for a very exciting time for the tuner community. I'm actually hoping the SRT-4 catches on for this very reason.
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you dont think the srt-4 is selling good? go ask dodge that they will laugh of course the civic outsells it because they pump them out of the assembly line so much.
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Originally posted by Jollysid
GM has instructed it's dealers to STOP selling the car. What about that don't you understand? Some dealers may still try to move the Aveos left in their inventory, but it will be against GM's wishes.

There's a chevy dealer in Jersey selling them 2 for the price of 1! LOL!
He was right. GM is selling them again. Link They just held up the sales to investigate the accidents.

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Oh yeah, where in NJ are they selling them 2 for 1?
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GM may sell the most cars in the world at this moment, but their market share is dwindling every year. Why is their market share dwindling? Because they make inferior products. It won't be long before Toyota surpasses them world wide. Toyota surpassed Ford in the 3rd Quarter of 2003 in total revenue to become the world's second largest manufacturer. Watch out General...
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but toyota and ford were always close gm sells so much more.

lets see they make profit out of

1.buick
2.chevy
3.cadillac
4.gmc
5.hummer
6.oldsmobile
7.pontiac
8.saab
9.saturn
10.holden
11.opel
12.vauxhall
13.subaru
14.isuzu
15.suzuki

not to mention all the other ways they make money like DIRECTV and vortec performance parts and countless other companies who they parent. not that i care that much i dont see a penny out of it just the facts.
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I would choose a Honda Element Over a Toyota Scion. cause the element is bigger and high off the ground and safer then a small way low to the ground Toyota Scion.
also element has more horsepower then a toyota scion.
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Originally posted by sadboy916
you dont think the srt-4 is selling good? go ask dodge that they will laugh of course the civic outsells it because they pump them out of the assembly line so much.
umm yeah that's why they outsell them... LOL! The civic is a daily driver and will always outsell a sports car! Do you really think if they made more SRT's they'd sell more?

It all depends on what you call "good"... I hear that they're close to meeting expectations, but they aren't selling a ton. They had rather low expectations because it is such a niche car. Like I said hopefully it does better and motivates the other companies to compete, then we could see some really cool stuff hit this scene.
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