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Old Feb 12, 2004
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Actually, C6 production begins this summer. The C5 is the "regular Corvette" only in the sense that its the non-Z06...

See, the C5 means 5th Generation Corvette. The basic coupe and convertible share the 350hp LS1. The Z06 is the hardtop version of the chassis (sold in 99 and 00 as the "base" Corvette). The main difference is the engine/transmission/suspension setup/tires. The Z06 has an LS6 version of the LS1 under the hood.

The C6 performance estimates put it as being just a tick slower than a current Z06.

As for it being mass produced -- you are spot on. Its mass produced, every year except for 1997 due to the late introduction of the model and the short production run. Just shy of 10,000 1997 C5s were made.

The C6 will be quite improved over the C5, but its really an evolution, not a revolution...

I too love the C5...


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"I realize the C5 is not a mass-produced car by any means;"

Why do you say that Evo? They made over 33,000 C5's in 1999 alone!!! Some people are confused about the C5. The C5 is the regular corvette, the current corvette, well, until now. Now the C6 is out. The C6 is as fast as the C5 ZO6. Someone said the 360 Modena was slower than the C5, well, the C5 does 0-60 in 4.7 secs. and the Modena's is 4.4. However, there is a $100,000 difference between the two. The C5 has a lot of potential, and with about $10,000 that car will run 9's in the 1/4. I love the Corvette!!!
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well if production numbers makes a car super fast my truck is faster then a vette only 1 of 1392 black club cabs made that year .......one 4110 club cabs made that year... and 1 of 6281 made period that year


my point is so what if its mass produced its still a very good lookin fast sports car that can hold its own against cars triple its price.... though i dont particualy like its newest styling
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Oh i know the difference between the LS1 and LS6. I own a 99 Z28. I can't wait to see the new LS2 though. As fast as the ZO6 with as much reliability, that is as far as Chevy's go, as the LS1. That will be an awesome engine!!
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where is that pic?
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^^yah lets see this picture
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LOL!

That would have made my girlfriend's 97 Formula WS6 incredibly fast... it was one of 473 Formulas with the WS6 pacakage (everyone else gets the T/A WS6).

But, her car isn't *that* fast...

Originally posted by blkdak99rt
well if production numbers makes a car super fast my truck is faster then a vette only 1 of 1392 black club cabs made that year .......one 4110 club cabs made that year... and 1 of 6281 made period that year


my point is so what if its mass produced its still a very good lookin fast sports car that can hold its own against cars triple its price.... though i dont particualy like its newest styling
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yea its not the production numbers that make the car but the technology behind it
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Ferrari freely admits that "if you want a car for the numbers, don't get a Ferrari." All the Fast and Furious generation care about is the numbers. Hence you have 14 second Civics with gutted interiors and no power steering ...for only a 14 sec quarter mile.

The Zonda, while fast, doesn't have a trace of beauty in it.

The 360 Modena blows away any sports car in terms of its quality craftsmanship. Ever been in an interior of one and compare it to a Corvette? Corvette interiors look they came from an $18,000 car. Cheap. Even the C6 interior looks cheap. 360 has stiched leather, scoops that are all functional (for all the ricers with functionless body kits and hood scoops)., black mesh rear that both vents the engine and gives a glimpse of its beauty. Rear window that shows off the engine like a trophy.

It has that inexplicable sense of Italian class that Ford GT's and Chevy Corvettes will never match.

Speaking of C6's, I really wish they did a little more to the side and the rear. It's okay to "evolve" a design if it's a nice one, but after a decade of looking almost exactly the same I'd expect something with a little more punch (the front is beautiful though).

They trimmed off 5" from the length and 1" from the width in hopes of attracting the European and Japanese market. Still looks bulky, doubt people outside the U.S. will like it.

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Funny thing about racing in general, the whole point is to do it as little as possible.

Think about it......
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I don’t know **** about cars with that a side I can say my 2cent. Ferrari is the best all time exotic car maker out their. F1 racing is the most technological racing in the world. Vette lovers always say that their car is cheaper and can be made to smoke any car out their. This is true, but one thing all you American Car lovers have to understand is that if you put 3 2004 Corvette $51,000 that would total to one 2003 Ferrari 360 Modena in a non stop race I bet you any thing that the Ferrari will out last all 3 Corvettes that is the difference in quality.

One more thing lot of cars not just the over complemented Corvette can be mod to out run most exotic cars. There is a M3 that was mod that can out run a Ferrari Modena and a Lamborghini’s Murcielago, but I bet that M3 will not last for a long time. Highly Mod CARS are like racing cars the engine only last for a short time. A highly mod Corvette can out run a Modena but will not out last Ferrari Quality. Corvette’s can only last a minute in bed but a Ferrari can last all Day. My all time favorite car is a McLaren
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^^Well actually the Corvette has won in Le Mans quite a few times, that's 24 hours of non-stop racing. Though it has been worked on quite a bit from stock in order to keep it going, the engine is still the same.

P.S. How many new Ferrari's out there have over 100,000 miles on it in order to say they will outlast a corvette? Don't get me wrong, I agree with all the comments about the Modena. I love Ferrari, i just don't have the money to afford a Ferrari right now, but I do have enough to buy a corvette!!!

BTW, what pics did you guys wanna see Impulse and Gecko?

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Originally posted by sadboy916
yea the twin turbo c5 ownes everything even enzo in perfromance
Oooh... you're serious. In 0-60, 1/4 mile, and top speed (which is the only thing that's important to you) yes, the Vette is faster, but anything else, the Enzo is much quicker. For starters, it's Mid-engine, rear-wheel drive, is a FERRARI (yes, they must be overrated, they couldn't possibly have won the last 6 straight constructors championships and 4 straight drivers world championships in Formula One on engineering prowess). I mean, they only developed the Enzo with Michael Schumacher as the test driver, giving them all the feedback, it must be a really overrated car lease:
sadboy, there's something you have to learn in this world, and that is, there are things out there that are better than American cars

Getting back to the Vette vs Modena topic, the Modena has superior handling. The Modena is lighter, has better handling (Mid-engine rear-wheel drive) F1 gearbox (shifts in a split second, must faster than a normal manual gearbox found in the Corvette) has better braking capabilities, and oh yeah, it's a Ferrari.

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Originally posted by NottaCivic
^^Well actually the Corvette has won in Le Mans quite a few times, that's 24 hours of non-stop racing. Though it has been worked on quite a bit from stock in order to keep it going, the engine is still the same.
That's true, but saying a Corvette is better because it won Le Mans means nothing. You see, the C5R and the actual road-going C5 are much, much different. For one, I don't know... the C5R is a race car, and about the engine, they are not the same at all. For one, they are fully built up race motors by Pratt & Miller racing. They are 7.0L (427ci) engines, totally different, while it is a derivitive of the LS1, it is nothing alike. Secondly, like I said before, the C5R which won Le Mans (no small feat by any means) is a purpose built race car, so saying that road-going Corvette is better than a Ferrari, or any other car, because it's name won Le Mans, isn't a very fair statement. Don't get me wrong, if you have either a Ferrari or a Corvette, you have an amazing car, but don't kid yourself. A Corvette is nowhere near in the same league as a Ferrari, any Ferrari. They are both amazing cars, but Ferrari hasn't been making supercars for 50 years for nothing, or having won in Formula One, Le Mans, Mille Miglia, Targa Floria, Daytona, etc for nothing. Ferrari knows what they are doing, and they do it well.

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Don't worry about sadboy, he thinks Vette is god.

And I hardly consider the Vette, even a Twin Turbo, anything near the status symbol a Ferrari is.
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Exactly
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Hey I never said the Corvette is better than the Ferrari. Someone had said that the Ferrari will outlast a Corvette, all i said is that you can't tell because there is not very many, if any at all, NEWER Ferrari's out there with over 100K miles on them. Your right about the C5R being completely different from the road going C5, I was simply illustrating a point, not saying that the Corvette is better than the Ferrari in any way, just cheaper. It's cheaper for a reason, it's a CHEVY!!!
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listen you guys ferrari chevy it doesnt matter. The Vette is a flagship of great american engineering the ferrari is the same for the italians. Different worlds. Personally i like ferrari's. I HATE fords....lol.....but there are reasons why chevy is Not in F1 and there are reasons the Enzo is the closest thing you can buy to a F1 car. 3.3 sec 0-60, 1/4 mile in 11.6.....i mean cmon and the thing handles and stops a hairline less than the perfection of a f1 car. If your gonna compare the best from chevy (vette) to the best of ferrari(enzo) its jus not gonna happen. The car is a pure bred race car and to the person who said ferraris are just bought for looks, i dont know what your talking about pal, because I think some of those top end japanese cars with mods such as supras and 300zx's (body kits and what not) get noticed a lot faster....also rx7's....people arent gonna buy the new gt40 from ford for a reason and its not the looks. A ferrari is a pure racing stallion. A car that can take the abuse, rip turns and respond to your every single move. I drove a 550 Marranello for 3 hours, and let me tell you even though its a front engine v12 and the Z06 WILL beat it because it handles and brakes like a BEAST, i would take the 550. The Top end is amazing and i would like to see 2 skilled drivers of the same expertice race on a track with those cars. The ferrari will triumph. Ferrari is #1 in F1 not just cuz of Michael, its cuz of their amazing car and pit crew. The company all in all is the Flagship of Superior engineering and there will never be a replacement. Thats jus my .02
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ferrari is better the chevy no matter what but the new chevy ssr is cool
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that ssr is a fruit mobile.... literally seen three while driving through deleware near rehobith beach(known around the area as where the fruit cakes live) and have seen 2 pink ssr's and not to mention they are pretty slow too i dont care for the body lines but everyone has their opinion of cool
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Man, what a funny arguement...

The Vette is the best domestic sports car, hands down. What that means is that it does everything well.

Yeah, the Viper is faster, but its also more expensive and a lot more crude, though the new SRT10 is supposed to fix a lot of the short comings. Yeah, the Vette interior looks cheaper than the Ferrari, but its still a BIG step up from the interiors in most American cars.

The Ferrari is about class and technology. The Vette is a much simpler car, though its also a technological tour de force for cars costing in the 40k range. When the C5 first came out in 1997, its chassis was as rigid as a Mercedes SL -- thats pretty impressive.

I guess the bottom line for people is to buy what you can afford and what you like. I'm currently stuck with a Civic while I look for a job to put my college degree to work.
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Personally im a ///M addict but oh thats just a dream i guess.....::sigh:: lolol
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who woulda thought this thread would go so far..lol. I'm still waitin for the damn Ferrari pics...what up wid that!?
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I'm not really in to the Big super car thing, I prefer lotuses Ideoligy, make a small light weight sports car and you wont need Big High HP engines.....
Examples:
The Elan

The newer Elan

The 7

The Elise


ect ect ect .... You get my point.
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Originally posted by Boilermaker1
They start at $146,000
not to mention Ferrari has to approve your *** if you want to buy one of the higher end cars. Its like adopting a pet from the Humane Society
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