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Old Jan 13, 2004
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Buy Domestic, or else...?

this is an interesting thing happening here in windsor (canada's car capital and right across from detroit)

Ad blitz tells drivers to buy domestic cars

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what do you think?
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1. I've worked on too many domestics to ever want a car made here, Truck Yes, car no...
2. Most of the Hondas sold in the US are made in the US.
3. Unions suck, they have surved their purpose and now only amount to legalized extortion.
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mybe the domestic poeple should stop bitching and make a better more marketable car
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Basically, any vehicle with a Chrysler, Ford or GM nameplate is acceptable, Vince said. But vehicles owned by those companies and made overseas, such as Mercedes, Mazda, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo, are not, he said.
What a hypocrit. Mercedes merged with Chrysler, Mazda and Jaguar are partly owned by Ford, and I dunno about Land Rover or Volvo.
There aren't a whole lot of car companies that sell in the US/Canada that aren't at least partially owned by one of the big 3 american car companies. What a bunch of dumbasses. lease:
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wow, what an ignoramis, there are PLENTY of cars that have japanese names on them that are made and partially made here, as Zzyzx stated earlier. SOMEONE has to build them, and if american automakers would make BETTER cars, people would start to buy them more often.. Yeah, Ford, but no Volvo, Land Rover, Jaguar, or Mazda, which are ALL the same company...


All I can say is, it will be HILARIOUS when this effort fails.. Please, keep us posted on this, it looks funny!!
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I think the author wants people to buy cars made in Canada. not necessary domestics in general. I can see his point of view. If people buy cars made in Canada then they can maintain a lower unemployment level and the plants there will provide lots of money for the city to use.
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The article clearly states that the only new manufacturing plant to open in Canada the last five years was a Honda plant. These ads make little sense really. Not to mention that Mercedes has plants in Alabama. BMW in South Carolina. Toyota in Califorina I believe. Honda in Ohio. I know there are other examples, these are just the ones that come to mind.

Add to that the ownership stakes domestic automakers have in imports such as Jag, Volvo, Land Rover, Mazda, Saab, and Subura. Or in the case of Chrysler, the stake a foreign company has in a "domestic". And it just goes to show that buying an import shouldn't be viewed as a crime. The educated consumer is smart enough to realize that, I hope.

Some people just don't want to admit it's not the late 70's anymore. Such as the unions, who have a bone to pick with Honda for hiring non-union workers in their plants.

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Interesting article, civicgirlie. I agree with all of the above comments. Besides, car companies would be crazy not to have a production factory inside the US. Imagine if Honda had to import all vehicles sold to US or Canadian citizens. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think car prices would be higher--a lot higher.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
1. I've worked on too many domestics to ever want a car made here, Truck Yes, car no...
2. Most of the Hondas sold in the US are made in the US.
3. Unions suck, they have surved their purpose and now only amount to legalized extortion.
I have 2 relatives that are ASE certified master techs. One works for Chevy, the other Ford and they pretty much echo what you said. American trucks (although they still break down plenty) and foreign cars are the way to go.

Also like you said most Hondas, Toyotas, VWs, along with some Jags & BMW's are assembled here. They aren't manufactured here, but we're still talking about tons of American workers putting together, selling, and servicing these cars. Plus it's not like domestics don't get some parts from overseas or across the border...
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
1. I've worked on too many domestics to ever want a car made here, Truck Yes, car no...
2. Most of the Hondas sold in the US are made in the US.
3. Unions suck, they have surved their purpose and now only amount to legalized extortion.
Hondas , toyotas, nisssans, mazda mitsubishi, may be assembled or made in the us but they have japanese design making them outlast all ther competition
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My girlfriends parents just bought a buick. Her dad went on and on about buying american etc etc. He didn't mention that his Buick was assembled in Mexico. Nor did I mention my Honda was assembled in the US. ohio if I'm not mistaken.. and my girlfriends altima was assembled in tennesse... and thats not forget about all those electronics in their new buick... I wonder where those came from..
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Originally posted by hothondacivic02
Hondas , toyotas, nisssans, mazda mitsubishi, may be assembled or made in the us but they have japanese design making them outlast all ther competition
My car has 100% Japanese Origin with the final assembly point being "Hofu/Hiroshima" Japan.
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You know, domestic cars aren't as bad as people still make them out to be, and imports aren't as great as Consumer Reports says. They got a bad name in the early and mid 90's. and now, they can't seem to break that bad rep. Face it, if you've ever ridden in today's american cars, you'd notice the quality is vastly improved. This can't happen overnight people.
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
1. I've worked on too many domestics to ever want a car made here, Truck Yes, car no...
2. Most of the Hondas sold in the US are made in the US.
3. Unions suck, they have surved their purpose and now only amount to legalized extortion.
Have to agree 100%
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I find it kind of ironic that he is saying "don't buy cars that aren't made here" being imports of course, yet there is a plant in Alliston Ontario that makes Civic sedans/Acura EL's... Idiot
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Originally posted by Zzyzx
1. I've worked on too many domestics to ever want a car made here, Truck Yes, car no...
2. Most of the Hondas sold in the US are made in the US.
3. Unions suck, they have surved their purpose and now only amount to legalized extortion.
well dont you have honda? so your contradicting the **** out of yourself than right?
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Originally posted by Metallica454
You know, domestic cars aren't as bad as people still make them out to be, and imports aren't as great as Consumer Reports says. They got a bad name in the early and mid 90's. and now, they can't seem to break that bad rep. Face it, if you've ever ridden in today's american cars, you'd notice the quality is vastly improved. This can't happen overnight people.
You made your pro-american opinion well known in the "zetec vs vtec" thread. This sounds like flame bait. The whole domestic vs import argument has been argued to death and not on this topic.

The topic here is about buying domestic just because it's domestic. The point we're making is that you can't call any car a true domestic anymore because:
a. many domestics are made of foreign parts
b. many "imports" or domestics are assembled in different countries.
c. domestic companies own shares in "import" brands
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Originally posted by IMURMILK1
well dont you have honda? so your contradicting the **** out of yourself than right?
Not nessisairly, Yes My honda was built in the US, but its still held to the same build standards as if the car was built in Japan. Domestics.... well they arnt.

Example of this, European and japanes car manufacturers build their cars to +-3mm for each measuring point Vs the blueprint. Domestics, are held to a +-7mm. This highlights why seams, Gaps ect are much tighter and more uniform on imported cars. Its because they were held to a Higher standard. Does this mean that my civic is a better car then a Cadillac? Not nessiarily (Economy car Vs Luxury), but it is put together better.

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well dont you have honda? so your contradicting the **** out of yourself than right?
Not really. The engineering isn't domestic just the assembly. the american union tradespeople who assemble the cars do a great job. I don't neccisarily think the American engineers live up to that standard.

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Regardless, if you have a car built in america vs a car built in japan, the workmanship is different. The work ethic here is not as standardized as it is there, so your saying that an american built japanese named car, is the same as a car built in japan is ridiculous.
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i live in detroit and all i hear is...."you should buy domestic and support the detroit car companies"

i have a better idea, why don't the domestic companies like ford make a good car that doesn't break at 59k miles, then maybe someone will buy them
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Originally posted by nookiemonster
Regardless, if you have a car built in america vs a car built in japan, the workmanship is different. The work ethic here is not as standardized as it is there, so your saying that an american built japanese named car, is the same as a car built in japan is ridiculous.
They're just assembling the same parts... I don't see what the difference would be, especially considering the same machines are doing most of the work. Do you think American workers don't tighten bolts as hard or something?
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