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Old Aug 1, 2003
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for all those Celica haters...

...eat this!

http://www.hotchkistuning.com/frames...ng_results.htm
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just goes to show you how important suspension really is, its not only about HP, its about the driver and the suspension he/she is riding on. Nice numbers.
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that kicks ***
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thats cool but i still hate celicas
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The celica has allways been a good platform for racing (Road Race). Just like.....(Every ones gonna hate this)........ the Neon (The ACR comes to mind, I dont know about the SRT-4, FWD turbo tends to be a liability in the corners)!

There are a lot of cars out there that make decent Road race cars, yet are **** poor on the drag strip. At this point, from my experiance in autocross, I no longer look at the car in terms of weather or not the car is fast. I look at the driver.

I think this sums it up nicely
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Apples have a skin that is edible while the skin of an orange is not. An apple is also one piece while an orange can be broken up into sections.

The cars they compare it to are stock cars. The Celica isn't stock. The Celica prolly costs as much or more as those cars after its mods.

I see numbers for performance, but how about a bottom line? It is a great performing car, but that says NOTHING about Celicas.

Hold on... when they say "stock engine," do they mean nothing has been done to it or that it hasn't been swapped? If that car has ONLY suspension mods... I'll kiss its tires.
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That's done on a stock engine? Wow, impressive. I like the "full interior" part. I hate gutted interiors.

I never hated on the Celica ...but I still think it's a girl's car The style looks so girly, I can't get over it. I generally don't like Toyota styling sans the IS300, so I just have that bias. Never said stuff like "Celica is slow" though.

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Originally posted by white2K2EX
The cars they compare it to are stock cars. The Celica isn't stock. The Celica prolly costs as much or more as those cars after its mods.

I see numbers for performance, but how about a bottom line? It is a great performing car, but that says NOTHING about Celicas.

Hold on... when they say "stock engine," do they mean nothing has been done to it or that it hasn't been swapped? If that car has ONLY suspension mods... I'll kiss its tires.
That Hotchkis kit is $2,200. And don't start that crap about a swapped engine... it's a GTS. There's no engine that swaps into the 7th gen Celica anyways... pucker up
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I drove my friend's GTS the other day...I was really impressed with it's power and how it handled. I'm checking into getting one or a RSX Type S. I don't care what anyone says about the celica's, if it has the right kit and wheels...It's a badass looking car. Oh, and it kicks the **** out of my car when we race. All he has is a cold air intake and I have over $2,500 in my engine. Don't be haters
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wow thats awesome
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Originally posted by Jandree22
That Hotchkis kit is $2,200. And don't start that crap about a swapped engine... it's a GTS. There's no engine that swaps into the 7th gen Celica anyways... pucker up
I guess I will be puckering up. I thought by "stock engine" they meant "not swapped." I never kept up with what you could or couldn't swap into Celicas.

Maybe I should stop by the Toyota dealer this weekend.
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Impressive and I knew that celicas handled that well...they are just too damn small..and kind of a chick car
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Celicas are good cars. One thing I didn't like is the fact that it's gearing makes it so you don't stay in "lift" (their version of vtec) when you shift gears.
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i was pretty sure that VVT-I was their version of VTEC.
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variable valve timing and electronic LIFT control. He didn't mean "lift" is what it's called - just what it is.
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Originally posted by 75shot
i was pretty sure that VVT-I was their version of VTEC.

Thats what i thought too
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I really like the GTS...It's a great, all around car. Plus, it has more room in it than everyone thinks. My friend is 6' 7" and he fits in it comfortably. The hatch has a lot of room in it also
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Originally posted by 75shot
i was pretty sure that VVT-I was their version of VTEC.
Yes, but hitting "lift" is what they refer to as we refer "hitting VTEC".

That's the point I was making.
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Not too bad. .. I don't really hate Celica's much, but I don't think I would buy one, unless I got some kind of exceptional deal on one, just because I don't think you are getting much car for as much as they are asking for them. Anyways.. Good numbers there, the car does look like it would handle very well.

I'll eat it, but it's not going to be pretty later on. .
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Originally posted by S2000man01
Yes, but hitting "lift" is what they refer to as we refer "hitting VTEC".

That's the point I was making.

ok...agreed...
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Originally posted by S2000man01
Yes, but hitting "lift" is what they refer to as we refer "hitting VTEC".

That's the point I was making.
ahhh yes. i see now.
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your friend is 6"7 and he fit in a celica?not to mention comfortably?
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Originally posted by macrossranma
your friend is 6"7 and he fit in a celica?not to mention comfortably?

I was thinking the same thing...i am 6'1".........which isn't tall..and i fit like perfectly in it..how is a guy 6 inches tall gonna be comfortable??...i don't doubt you...just curious
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Doesnt matter that it's a chick car sometimes. The car had awesome brakes to begin with. There is extra power to found in that car (XS Engineering Turbo kit). VVTi-L is nice. But like S2000man says, the gearing doesnt allow the engine to stay above 6000RPMs. But that car I believe was built for handling, hence the weight reduction and smaller more technological engine and smaller chassis.
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this guy i know has a celica, i am 6'2" it was decently comfortable. they respond nicely to mods i hear too.
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Thats really crazy for having a stock engine. Some crazy suspension
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