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Old Jul 6, 2003
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Originally posted by Nodnero
Everything in Japan is better then in the US
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Old Jul 6, 2003
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altezza is a is300
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do your research. they upped the HP and performance of the Altezza before they brought it over as the IS300. All the "things are better in japan than in U.S." is just ricer bullshit. May be the case sometimes, but not always, and not in this case.
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take ur IS300, race and Altezza, stock for stock, and you will beat it by a car length at least. (oh sorry s2000man....quarter miles are for ricers!)
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not all things in Japan are better than the ones in USA... but wouldn't you know to own an altezza? barely no one has a toyota altezza in the states, it would be something very unique to own, even though it might be slower than the is300.. i'd still take the altezza..
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I wonder if the japanese are makeing red taillight conversions for their altezzas
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i hope so
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Add a supra engine single or tt and then u have an altezza beast!
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Originally posted by 01VTEC
Add a supra engine single or tt and then u have an altezza beast!
Nice if you have the $20,000 plus that such a swap will cost you. Much cheaper to simply turbo the stock 2jz-ge that comes with the IS3.
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cough state side

Originally posted by ebound
I dunno, I saw quite a few TRD Altezzas when I went to Japan, and they're pretty sexy.

There were a couple modded ones, but the TRD still looked better, IMO.
cough, that's why I said state side.....Japan has many of the supercars that have finally made it here i.e. EVO, WRX, partly some of the skylines that have been legalized. i did some research for a TRD Altezza couldn't find one. Have a picture to share with us?
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Altezza is a 2 Liter screamer, the IS300 is a 3 Liter NA Supra engine. They put a 3 Liter in the IS3 b/c there is no way they were going to have a 2 Liter Lexus. The IS200/Altezza was supposed to bring back the AE86 days for Toyota, but it came out to be an overweight sedan.
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i thought altezza's were a 4 cylinder version of the is300.
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whenever they bring the good stuff to the states they have to detune it so it meets u.s. emissions.
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but the IS300 met immissions.
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it's not an is300 man. is 300 is an i-6 3.0. the altezza is a i-4 w/a 2.0 or aka is200.(in europe)
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what i've been saying since the begiinning. Altezza is < than the IS300.
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Altezza(Japan) or IS200(Europe) - 200 hp I4(3s-ge)
IS300(USA) - 215 hp I6(2jz-ge)

the IS300 is slightly more weighty. The IS300 is a heavy NA supra (like someone already said). The Altezza or IS200 is the same chassis as the IS300, but has a smaller less powerful engine but is also lighter. The altezza has a red top 3s-ge which has dual vvt-i (why dual i have no idea - V ariable V alve T imeing with I nteligence). It also has higher compression than the 3s-ge's used in NA celicas(5th and 6th gen) and a few other toyotas. Basicly the difference is only the Engine(15 hp - 2cyl - 1 liter) and a little weight(off the front).

Personally I would ratther have a heavy supra than a heavy celica. I would go for the IS300.

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Originally posted by JmD_1901
Personally I would ratther have a heavy supra than a heavy celica. I would go for the IS300.
I agree, but I wish they would slap a 6 speed onto the US IS300.
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my bad.
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The Altezza would handle better on a road course, as it has a better F/ R weight distribution. 15 hp isn't much of a difference. A 6- speed would actually cut down the power advantage, also. If you were 2 offer one of them as a trade- in for my 'vic, i'd get the Altezza.

You may want to look at the HKS carbon- fibre body Altezza
http://www.fast-autos.net/hks/hksaltezza.html
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Originally posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
I agree, but I wish they would slap a 6 speed onto the US IS300.
The US IS300 does come in 5-speed manual. You might even be able to swap in the last model supra 6 speed.

The Alezza is better on a road corse. The IS300 has better Drag potential with the 2jz-ge.
It's a hard decission.
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altezza= is300

lexus is300
toyota altezza
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Originally posted by bumdup
altezza= is300

lexus is300
toyota altezza
nope....different engines.
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similar but not the same.......kind of like different model grades same basic chassis and body, but different drivetrain. also two different countries plus no Lexus in Japan they are all Toyotas.
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altezza is good only for like track and all that stuf
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Originally posted by JmD_1901
The US IS300 does come in 5-speed manual. You might even be able to swap in the last model supra 6 speed.

The Alezza is better on a road corse. The IS300 has better Drag potential with the 2jz-ge.
It's a hard decission.
You are able to swap out the standard 5-speed for the Supra TT 6-speed. However, it is not a straight forward swap, as parts have to be specially made. Hence, a swap will cost you in the neighborhood of $10,000.

For extremely high HP applications you would want the 6-speed. Several people have this swap already. Toyomoto offers the swap, and possibly Powerhouse also.
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Originally posted by sexcivic2k1
correct, i would love to see a toyota altezza
me too...But the closest I can get is an Altezza race car in GT3...lol.

Someone told me that they're gonna bring one in for display at a Lexus dealer in Toronto....I can only hope...That'll be worth the 3 hr drive for sure.
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Originally posted by 75shot
nope....different engines.
ya, i know.... but without going into too much details.... is300 IS the altezza.
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Originally posted by bumdup
ya, i know.... but without going into too much details.... is300 IS the altezza.

without going into details, a Volkswagen Passat is an S6, nope, sorry.
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Originally posted by 75shot
without going into details, a Volkswagen Passat is an S6, nope, sorry.
yes, u are right, they are NOT the same. but have u ever seen an altezza? it looks exactly the same as the is300. becuase we don't have the car here in america, and the guy is clueless about the altezza, the simpliest way is to say they are the same(in looks). as i said, i am not going into details about the spec of the cars, so i don't know why ur making things so complicated. if ur still not satisfied, go ahead and post more bs... i'm not going to say **** anymore.... this is pointless fighting over a simple question.
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