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Old Jul 21, 2002
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K&N FIPK Installed today.

Got my K&N FIPK on today. Looks good. Has a nice heat shield. Everything fits real nice including brackets. It's really like it was made for the car, unlike some others I've seen. Pics later.

7/21/2002

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HOw much does it cost???
Does it fit an auto??
SRI or CAI??
Colors???
sorry so many kuestions..........
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Got my K&N FIPK on today. Looks good. Has a nice heat shield. Everything fits real nice including brackets. It's really like it was made for the car, unlike some others I've seen. Pics later.[hr]
what does FIPK stand for?
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FIPK = Fuel Injection Performance Kit It's basically a SRI with a heat shield.

Yes it fits automatic 1.7L engine.

I got it at PERFORMANCE CENTER . COM

Price was $203.38 with shipping included. They only come in black. It also comes with the filter cleaner and oil kit.

If you're interested call Robert at Performance Center. Service and shipping was good and prompt.
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If Chenney is arrested, will bush get a turn to run his office?
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Here are som pics of the K&N installation on my car. See links.


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Nice. My dad and I were actually just talking about this. I think he is obsessed with the FIPK!
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I had a AEM and a OBX and I think the K&N is much better all around.

Only problem I see is that the heat shield is above the auto trans fluid dip stick and makes it a little harder to get to, but not that big of a deal.
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Hmm... Looks ______. Different. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
Why do you think it's the best out of the three?
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Because everything fits right. All the materials are good quality, and I trust that K&N took the time to do a good job of engineering. Plus they give you the dyno chart with the kit.
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and whats the amount of HP and torque increase/decrease they claim?

which civic, trim? transmission? thanks for the info.. if its there anyway...

the only neato thing is the heatshield...

I was just gonna keep my InJen SRI and fabricate myself a heatshield... but I just went back to stock and sold the InJen..

the OBX SRI is an InJen Replica... I duno about the OBX CAI though.
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Here's what K&N says.

Civic 1.7L L4 F/I Fuel Injection Performance Kit 57-3513 All

So I presume it fits all 1.7 L Civicx any trans. I'm sure it will fit auto or std. no problem.

The dyno chart just shows HP with a gain of around 4.0 HP in the 5000 to 6200 RPM range.

this may sound kinda nit picky, but I like the fact that the adapter for the TB is straight, and is real reinforced rubber, and the breather hose is also reinforced thick wall hose. No flimsy tubing that cuts easily. The intake tube is a themoset plasic with the color molded in. The heat shield is standard and is quite robust. The brakets fit with no muss, no fuss. Overall it is just a nice installation, with no half assed stuff.
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Looks alot like the AEM SRI, how the pipe bends down then comes back up.
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I just took my first trip with mine. I was getting around 30 MPG around town and kinda letting the ECU do it's own thing without a forced reset. I had about 500 miles on the FIPK before I started this trip. So anyway I just drove 612 miles on 16.4 gallons of gas and got 37.3 MPG. So no drop in gas mileage. I was running mostly 70-75 MPH and if I wanted to mash on the gas at 70, I had good acceleration. I truly believe the intake has helped the power in that range.
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how does it sound???
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Did you get a coupon code for free shipping?

It will be nice if you can share it!
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My FIPK just came in and I will be installing this afternoon. Will report back on any performance gains with an automatic in a EX sedan. I am also going to change oil and possibly sparks plug to tommorrow morning. I can't find AMSOIL any where in stores ( this really sucks) and as fpr plugs I am think of going with Bosch Platnium 4's. I have been using Valvoline 5w30 sythentic and want to change I am starting to here the valves more everyday. I think case the oil is dirty it is not getting to the tops of the heads. Any advice on the Oil and plugs is welcome.
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yeah i got the K&N fipk too, really helps at high rpms you can feel the little bit of power it gives you, pretty loud at higher rpms too. i think its a great intake, looks good too.
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Bart,

I installed my FIPK and the nuts on the screws to the heat sheild don't thread down completely. It looks like there is a screwstop in the end of the nuts to prevent screws from going all the way through. My screws move and rattle but have not come undone yet ; my fear is that they will loosen at high RPM do to the vibrations over time. Did your screws thread all the way through and also did you use one or two washers to take up some of the gaps on the screws when intalling the the heat shield to the braces. The instructions say to tighten down all bolts and screws did I do something wrong. Also I used some of the OEM intake bolt washers and bolts; was this the case in your install. Oh yeah did you have to trim the vacuum hose to fit between the intake and manifold. Advice please! Thanks
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More power at higher rpms and stuff is cool, but did you lose any off the line?

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Bart,

I installed my FIPK and the nuts on the screws to the heat sheild don't thread down completely. It looks like there is a screwstop in the end of the nuts to prevent screws from going all the way through. My screws move and rattle but have not come undone yet ; my fear is that they will loosen at high RPM do to the vibrations over time. Did your screws thread all the way through and also did you use one or two washers to take up some of the gaps on the screws when intalling the the heat shield to the braces. The instructions say to tighten down all bolts and screws did I do something wrong. Also I used some of the OEM intake bolt washers and bolts; was this the case in your install. Oh yeah did you have to trim the vacuum hose to fit between the intake and manifold. Advice please! Thanks[hr]

i had to trim the vacuum hose about 1/4 of an inch, also you might want to try heating that hose up with a hair dryer to soften it up, it'll be easier to get on. as far as the nuts go, they're locking nuts, they're coated with plastic so you need to reef on em with a little wrench to get them tight, and one washer on each side of the heat sheild/ ie 2 washers per bolt. you shouldnt have to use any of the oem bolt washers and bolts, i didnt use them, k&n supplied all the necessary bolts.
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Bart,

I installed my FIPK and the nuts on the screws to the heat sheild don't thread down completely. It looks like there is a screwstop in the end of the nuts to prevent screws from going all the way through. My screws move and rattle but have not come undone yet ; my fear is that they will loosen at high RPM do to the vibrations over time. Did your screws thread all the way through and also did you use one or two washers to take up some of the gaps on the screws when intalling the the heat shield to the braces. The instructions say to tighten down all bolts and screws did I do something wrong. Also I used some of the OEM intake bolt washers and bolts; was this the case in your install. Oh yeah did you have to trim the vacuum hose to fit between the intake and manifold. Advice please! Thanks[hr]

I put the bolts through from the inside of the heat shield with nuts on the outside. The nuts are "aircraft" vibration proof type, and they snugged down just fine. Of course you have to hold the bolt head with a wrench to turn the nuts down tight. They aren't bolt stops, but interference threads to keep the nuts from coming loose so they don't turn freely while you are installing them.

Yes I did trim some off the PCV hose. It seems to bee a little too long, probably so you can fit it, rather than beeing too short in some applications. I think it would go on ok though if you stick it on the inataka and the valve cover fitting before you put the intake in place and kinda wiggle it on. But cutting isn't a problem.

I used the mounting bolts that came with the kit. I think the OEM ones might be a little too long. All the fasteners snugged down just fine. Als you should recheck those mounting bolts after you drive awhile to make sure they stay tight. After that no problems.



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FYI:

I just got back from a 1400 mile trip to Ohio and back and got 37 MPG overall on gas mileage. This was mostly interstate with some mountain driving. So I don't think there is any problem with gas mileage with the FIPK, at least on cruise control and running a steady 70 to 80 MPH.
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Thx all,

I looked at my bag of extra screws and washers and yes I messed up the install. I am going to replace the OEM bolts and washere with the KN screws and add the washers to the heat shield. DAMN I can't believe I messed this up like that.
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Only thing is; this is my first intake and it is so much louder than stock, I like the quiet humm the engine made before. I can all the valves and stuff and when I shut off the engine I can hear the vavles winding down ( I heat that high pitch metal on metal sound ) I am currently running amsoil 5w20 ($6/ qt ) do you think if I go to a mobil 1 or Valvoline synthetic 5w30 it will run quieter. OMG this thing really gets loud when I stomp on the gas like anything over 2500rpm and when I hit 3500+ it sounds like a lion roaring or something ( I know this is supposedly my engine breathing better but come on now) similar. OH YEAH THE POWER BAND HAS BEEN SMOOOOOOOTHED OUT TREMENDOUSLY OMG. I find my self creeping into the 70's , 80's, 90's before I realise it ( speed ticket waiting to happen) anyway please offer advise on moise control. Thx.
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If you don't want noise, then you don't want a "performance intake". Some are louder than the FIPK. However, at crusing speeds and light throttle I don't hear it. Only when you mash on the gas and raise those RPM's. As for hearing the valves, I've never heard that. It almost sounds like engine run on from carbon buildup or bad gas. My engine just quits dead when I shut it off.
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What the hell is engine run on OMG that sounds soooo bad. I don't think it is bad gas I only use Mobil 87 oct . Then again I do get my gas from some seeder places cause its like 20 cents cheaper a gallon. It is not a chugga chugga thing. it is more like the momentuim/enertia is caring the gears/valves and now I can hear it or maybe it is the vacuum dissipating that I am hearing . Once again thx
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Run on is the engine trying to run a while after you shur off the ignition. Carbon build up can glow, and continue to ignight what gas is left in the cylinders, etc, after you shut the engine off. Poor gas can likewise try and burn after you shut off the ignition. That used to happen a lot when they first went to unleaded gas and pollution controls. Maybe run some fuel system cleaner through a tankrul and try staying with a name brand gas at a bush station.
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Life is full of lemons.

I was in a rush and took my car to a quick lube. I had installed the K & N filter and told the dude twice to leave it alone, not to even open it.

Well, they did and I saw them playing around. Turns out they cross threaded the bolts holding the air box together. I almost did not even know but I was curious to see if they swiped my filter. I was pissed and went back and raised holy poop.

I got an estimate from Honda to replace the stock box and then took it back. With check in hand I pondered what to do. I said oh well and bought the FIPK. All I can say is what a difference!

Much more torque from 3000-6000 and it is much more fun to drive. It does get a bit noisey at 4000 and up, but it is still quiet if you are not on it hard.

Installation was a breeze. They used the stock mounting points, so there is no surprise and nothing to take apart on your transmission as in other units. The heat shield does keep a lot of heat away from the filter. I have an electronic thermometer on my Fluke and it keeps the temp almost 20 degrees different. Add to the quicker throttle response and the end to the lag from 2000 to 3000, and it is way worth it. Plus it looks much cleaner and will last the life of the car.

It is not flashy, it is all function, but it is pretty impressive looking at. You open the hood and notice this big air filter right away. Plus it looks as if Honda had put it there. I understand why the Honda dudes did what they did. They wanted a quiet car, but that box killed performance. I have not noticed any loss in torque or low end power, in fact the car does not bog as much and is much easier to drive.

I bought the K & N because I trust thier stuff and have always used them. Plus they gave me a free recharge kit. If you are thinking about getting this unit, I say do it, and I don't say that lightly.

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