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Old Feb 2, 2006
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how is this possible with intake?

Supposedly a stock neon srt4 gained 16whp and 30 wtq from just an intake. They tested the weapon-R secret intake on the dyno with a vid and everything. I know the car is turbo but all that gain from one intake is crazy.

http://www.weapon-r.com/store/agora....&ppinc=search2

and its not just at a single rpm

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same goes with K20A2's and K20A's. Intake makes a ridiculously huge difference ... average of about 12 whp for a cold air intake.

That's pretty impressive for being N/A too
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hmm...well i guess its true if they give out the vid clip and a dyno chart.
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howcome weapon r intakes are not so popular? all i hear about is aem or injen.
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When shops/companies dyno a aftermarket part to prove its worthiness, do you think they test the stock power using a brand new clean OEM filter?

I have this feeling its sort of unfair being that the aftermarket intake is tested with a new filter and we don't know the condition of the stock filter.

Or am I wrong?
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^^^ Its possible, but a turbo will suck in as much air as you can throw at it. The SRT4 intake is an airbox with a cylindrical filter in it, but its got a 2" outlet hose to the turbo.
I installed a K&N typhoon on my friends, it converts the intake to 2.5" with a 2" reducer to the turbo + a bigger filter. More air into the turbo means more power out. Turbos hate restriction, so I could see a gain like that.
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howcome weapon r intakes are not so popular? all i hear about is aem or injen.
because their older stuff used to suck, and everyone you talk to will say the same. i think they are improving alot now. look at their line of innovative products. i think the secret weapon intake has a ton of research behind it and imo is better than K&N and AEM.
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on our cars, AEM intakes sucks biggo cow *****. i got AEM short ram intake and i felt zero performance gains. ( according to my butt dyno.) i still want to try out the k&n typhoon. since now gearbox is saying he got the secret weapon R intake i kinda wanna try that out too. but yea...then again intake is an intake...
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they're not all the same. i say for performance, the weapon-r and typhoon are very close. aem sri and the fipk aren't that great. I think on the weapon-r the filter makes the intake, and it sounds alot less ricey than anything I've tried. Thats what makes me wanna keep it. the other intakes just got too annoying for me and i always put the stock back on.
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Originally Posted by se7engen_riDe
on our cars, AEM intakes sucks biggo cow *****. i got AEM short ram intake and i felt zero performance gains. ( according to my butt dyno.) i still want to try out the k&n typhoon. since now gearbox is saying he got the secret weapon R intake i kinda wanna try that out too. but yea...then again intake is an intake...
it's really the engine that sucks, not the intake itself.

manufacturers will make parts according to what they think would be the best flowing intake as well as the best fit ... the power gains in the end are up to the engine
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Originally Posted by gearbox
they're not all the same. i say for performance, the weapon-r and typhoon are very close. aem sri and the fipk aren't that great. I think on the weapon-r the filter makes the intake, and it sounds alot less ricey than anything I've tried. Thats what makes me wanna keep it. the other intakes just got too annoying for me and i always put the stock back on.
Intakes are supposed to make noise. Ive had a couple on my car AEM V2, Injen short ram, Home made cold air and ive experimented by using half of the stock box. All did about the same which is right next to nothing. I think it has something to do with this pos D17a2. Becouse in my integra bolts on actually made power differances that i could feel. And as far as lx's go. my friend has a 4 door lx and that thing is the slowest turd i ever drove in my life. My 93 civic 4 door dx wouldve ate that thing alive. What im trying to say is out of all the d-series motors hondas made these make the most power stock and as for as bolt ons the least.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
it's really the engine that sucks, not the intake itself.

manufacturers will make parts according to what they think would be the best flowing intake as well as the best fit ... the power gains in the end are up to the engine
hmm...you're right. i guess i need to re-phrase myself. our ENGINES suck. freakin d17 motors.
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i love the typhoon i got from gearbox.
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i think the iceman i had made more torque then the FIPK. on a turbo an intake can do wonders.
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boiler has it.............

True. Took the words out of my mouth
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Bah! want to know how a company can show such a high improvement?

Easy.

1. Simply Dyno a given car stock... after a few pulls, take the one with the lowest #'s and use it as your "base".

2. add your companys "performance" part. Dyno the car again and this time Take the one pull that shows the Highest gains...

3. present these dynographs as "facts" on how much your performance part improves the cars performance....
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well they showed a vid of the run with the intake installed and even the monitor shot as the dyno was graphing. even if they took the lowest stock number, 30 wtq across the rpm band is a huge difference.
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wow, Gearbox...............

you nearly made me buy the K&N FIPK about a year ago. I think you know why....

now you say that K&N sucks.......lol.
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well i didn't know any better back then i guess.
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