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Old Feb 10, 2005
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The MOST noobie question ever!!

Haha, I feel like a total turd for even asking, but then again, it's been a long day in the office and I need to know, just to sleep tonight.

Again, I drive a 2004 Civic EX Sedan, the one with the 1.7L 4-banger. It's a manual transmission, if that matters.

I was wondering, when I check out specs on what some parts do for some engines and what parts go to which engine, since my engine is a 1.7L, does that mean I have a B17? Someone enlighten me, everyone else make fun of me. Thanks.
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1.7 liter engine, d17a2 engine.

And Edelbrock doesnt make a turbo for our cars.
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Yet? I can't remember which issue of Super Street or Honda Tuning I saw it in, but I read it was being developed. I think I read they have them all the way up to 2003, which obviously doesn't include a 2004.
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Dont get white wheels. They will look like crap, especially on black. Get black wheels. Your sig said help, so Im helping
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Originally Posted by NewIndyCivic
Yet? I can't remember which issue of Super Street or Honda Tuning I saw it in, but I read it was being developed. I think I read they have them all the way up to 2003, which obviously doesn't include a 2004.
first off guys the "B" series motors are more poupularly the DOHC motors, your probably looking for parts and seeing a bunch of stuff for the b18, or b16, which are the motors that were put into the last 90's civic si, and in some of the acura integras and watnot. the reason why your seeing them is because they are like the best motors to build, hense, lots of parts. the family of motors that the regular civic EX's have in them are the "D" series motor, which = SOHC. (DOHC = dual over head cam....SOHC = single over head cam) so yes, the second post is correct, in all civics excluding the Si, from 01-05..there is a D17. in the generation before ours, civic had the D16. the 1.7 doesnt show up in the engine code, but nice assumption. so the moral of the story is this:

B16 = DOHC, and i believe that is the gsr motor.
B18 = DOHC, and i believe came in most civic Si's in late 90's
D16 = SOHC, came in the 6th gen non-SI civics
D17 = SOHC, new motor for 7th gen civics.
K20 = DOHC, new Si motors, and acura RSX motors

.....and about the B17, never heard of it

so again, im not very up on the older motors, but this is what i think ive heard...lol
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hint: when your looking for engine parts for your car, you can search under parts for a 01, 02, 03, 04, the engine hasent changed. when you are looking for exterior parts, ex. body kits.....you need to get something for the 2004 model. only thing that has changed is the body.

type in D17 when looking for engine parts.
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Thanks for the help. Just kinda thought white rims would be a shot of different, but then again black rims aren't quite played out, although I have seen several people who tried to pull off the blacked out look by taking off their wheel covers. Ha...

Anybody heard anything about these new Traklites from Motegi?
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Originally Posted by robo1040
first off guys the "B" series motors are more poupularly the DOHC motors, your probably looking for parts and seeing a bunch of stuff for the b18, or b16, which are the motors that were put into the last 90's civic si, and in some of the acura integras and watnot. the reason why your seeing them is because they are like the best motors to build, hense, lots of parts. the family of motors that the regular civic EX's have in them are the "D" series motor, which = SOHC. (DOHC = dual over head cam....SOHC = single over head cam) so yes, the second post is correct, in all civics excluding the Si, from 01-05..there is a D17. in the generation before ours, civic had the D16. the 1.7 doesnt show up in the engine code, but nice assumption. so the moral of the story is this:

B16 = DOHC, and i believe that is the gsr motor.
B18 = DOHC, and i believe came in most civic Si's in late 90's
D16 = SOHC, came in the 6th gen non-SI civics
D17 = SOHC, new motor for 7th gen civics.
K20 = DOHC, new Si motors, and acura RSX motors

.....and about the B17, never heard of it

so again, im not very up on the older motors, but this is what i think ive heard...lol
B18 = Integra motors
B16 = Civic SI and Del Sol VTEC motor
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The B17 is a motor. It came in GSR Integras in 92-93.
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Originally Posted by robo1040
hint: when your looking for engine parts for your car, you can search under parts for a 01, 02, 03, 04, the engine hasent changed. when you are looking for exterior parts, ex. body kits.....you need to get something for the 2004 model. only thing that has changed is the body.

type in D17 when looking for engine parts.

I don't mean to question your um, knowledge, but how positive are you that they haven't changed and that I'm okay buying parts made for an 03 and older? Just wondering.
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Originally Posted by cambo
B18 = Integra motors
B16 = Civic SI and Del Sol VTEC motor
thought the B16 was a non vtec motor?? and isnt that a beter motor then the b18? thoght b16 is gsr motor
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01-04 civics have the same motor, well dependingon the model, ie, 01 ex motors are the same as the 04 ex motor.both are d17a2
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Nope all integras minus the current DC5 (jdm) Where 1.8 cept for the b17 GSR and almost all B16 motors are VTEC . The ZC is a b16 non-vtec i believe. Thats the only b16 non-vtec
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you can get orange rims... look on tirerack.com and select your car then go through the rims and there are bright orange ones... thats a shot of difference... otherwise buy the shape u like and paint them body color
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Originally Posted by NewIndyCivic
I don't mean to question your um, knowledge, but how positive are you that they haven't changed and that I'm okay buying parts made for an 03 and older? Just wondering.

im not a master at the older motors, but i know the 7thgen motor, and the reason i know you can put parts for say a 01 civic on a 03 civic is cause ive done it along with 90% of the people on this site. i got my car in 03 and starting putting things on it as soon as i got it, when i searched for "2003 civic cold air intake",. i got nothing. but "2001 civic cold air intake" got madd hits. lets see, i had a 01 intake on my car, i have a turbo kit that came off a 2002 civic, i have AEM pulleys that are listed for a 2001.

believe me on this one,

D17 motor: (2001-2005, same)
body: (2001 - 2003, same) (2004 - 2005, same)
interior: (2001-2002, same) (2003 -2005, same)
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Originally Posted by robo1040
thought the B16 was a non vtec motor?? and isnt that a beter motor then the b18? thoght b16 is gsr motor
you are very confused. b16 is a dohc vtec motor, it comes in si's. b18b is a dohc noin-vtec, it comes in ls integras, b18c1 is a dohc vtec, it comes in gsr integras, b18c5 is also dohc vtec, just higher compression, andit come in itr's so the order of bseries from least powerful tomostpowerful goes b16-b18b-b18c-b18c5. hope this helps...theresalso the b20 non-vtec

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Originally Posted by civichxtreme
Nope all integras minus the current DC5 (jdm) Where 1.8 cept for the b17 GSR and almost all B16 motors are VTEC . The ZC is a b16 non-vtec i believe. Thats the only b16 non-vtec
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Originally Posted by centurioncivic
you are very confused. b16 is a dohc vtec motor, it comes in si's. b18b is a dohc noin-vtec, it comes in ls integras, b18c1 is a dohc vtec, it comes in gsr integras, b18c5 is also dohc vtec, just higher compression, andit come in itr's so the order of bseries from least powerful tomostpowerful goes b16-b18b-b18c-b18c5. hope this helps...theresalso the b20 non-vtec
cool, thanks for clearing that up, like i said, im no pro at the older motors

-at least i didnt say i knew that stuff for a fact
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and by the way indy civic, the only time the motors changed, is with trim packages HX, DX, LX, EX
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Hey, thanks again for the help. I didn't mean to sound like a *****. Basically I didn't want to get my hopes up if you didn't know what you were talking about. You get the idea. Thanks again. I donated.
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i have an 04 black coupe and i have white 17's and i think it looks awesome. i wouldnt trade them for any other rims. they look awesome because they just set the car off and make it look really clean and nice. i dont like black rims because they look like steelies when there moving unless you have a polished lip which looks good. just my opinion
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