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Old 01-25-2005
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Valve springs and retainers

Does anyone know if there is a company that makes valves and valve springs that work for our app? or does anyone know if the D16 has the same spec valves and springs. Im going to install this weekend the first mod after that I want to go with is get the head done and put in new vavles, spring and retianers so I can rev the motor up a litter high to get the most out of my T3/T4. anyone know?
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KMS' web site says they have all that stuff for the D17.
www.honda-performance.com
I think a member on here had his motor fully built by them but I don't remember his name. Otherwise, according to Kezay, Crower is supposed to be coming out with a ton of parts sometime next month. I've seen you in that thread, though, so I guess you already knew that.
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yeah I am hoping crower comes out soon but I don't trust KMS stuff.
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Ditto, KMS. But anything after redline you'd be losing power cuz of the stock ECU.


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but by using the emanage I could add air and fuel after the rev limit where the ecu leaves off. My t3/t4 would continue to make more power if I could rev higher.
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first question u should ask urself is HOW THE HELL ARE U GOING TO GET PAST REDLINE IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THOSE PARTS
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LOL ^ already saw that question coming so I have a thread up on honda tech asking that same question. If not im going to look into having some of the custom ecu Programmers down here in miami take a shot at it.
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i got manley valves and springs on my pnp head.
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this company makes pistons for the d17
Maybe they have the other stuff you need too.

www.raceeng.com

here is another place

http://www.akarimotorsports.com/ValvesHondaAcura.html

D16Z6 / Y8 / D17 1.6L SOHC VTEC:

Intake Valves
30.00 mm Valve (stock size)
30.50 mm Valve (0.5mm over)

Exhaust Valves
26.00 mm Valve (stock size)
26.50 mm Valve (0.5mm over)

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Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
first question u should ask urself is HOW THE HELL ARE U GOING TO GET PAST REDLINE IN ORDER TO UTILIZE THOSE PARTS
The interface block that came with my TSI kit allows you to toggle redline, i've tried it, i set it at 6k once, and right at 6k it started bouncing off the rev limiter. So i'm sure there's a device like that you could use.
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but the next prob is that Im not sure that oil ignition coils would be able to keep up with an 8200 redline. anyone know when the new msd system is supposed to come out?
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msd is doing something for our cars
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
The interface block that came with my TSI kit allows you to toggle redline, i've tried it, i set it at 6k once, and right at 6k it started bouncing off the rev limiter. So i'm sure there's a device like that you could use.

yes, but the rev limiter is limited by the ECU........gotta hack the ECU to rev higher. No need to build your top end unless you are reving over 7000 IMO.
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
yes, but the rev limiter is limited by the ECU........gotta hack the ECU to rev higher. No need to build your top end unless you are reving over 7000 IMO.
thats what im saying. I am trying to find a way to bypass the rev limiter and build the head, but I also need better coils. If all three of theese are in place then that Big t3/t4 that everyone says lags too much will own you
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http://www.ignitionsolutions.com/productsDirect.asp check those out for your coil probs
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they show some results on thier product but the results are from a M3 and they are kinda pricey but the results look promising
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I'de rather hold off till a trusted company like msd comes out with theirs. I heard it was to be realeased soon
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Originally Posted by HyaBoosta
but by using the emanage I could add air and fuel after the rev limit where the ecu leaves off. My t3/t4 would continue to make more power if I could rev higher.
i don't mean to bust on you but.......I do know some stuff about turbos......and I really don't think I'm understanding you when you say you have a T3/T4. What trims do you have? What I mean is.....if you put a Normal T3T4 on your car.....well it probably won't spool up fully til about 5500. By then your outta revs just about. After 6700 your gonna detonate your engine into smitherines. My turbo is a T3/T04....Big exhaust compressor, little inducer. It spools up fully at 4100. Do you get what I mean? My friend has a T3T4 on his Talon and it comes on at like 4200 and spools fully at like 5000. I'm thinking it may be a typo, I don't know.
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yeah it's a smaller T3/T4 .48AR it spools about 4000-4100rpms
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what I mean is that I can see that the turbo continues making power up t redline so by building the head and reving the motor high it will continue the power curve and gain more power.
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it will handle it better, you still need the management to rev that high.
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i contacted inline four. they do custom ecu programming. I am waiting to hear back from them if they can do it for our ecu's. lets cross some fingers.
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hmmm.....i tried talking to inline 4 a while back when his ack was featured in honda tuning and he blew me off.....
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