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Old Jan 21, 2005
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AEM SRI dyno

Why doesn't AEM have a dyno chart for the SRI for a 01+ manual trans?
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Old Jan 21, 2005
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not worth the dyno...
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According to the Dyno posted for the 01+ EX A/T, the SRI gave a best gain of 6.6 HP @ 5,750 RPM. Since the engine & the SRI P/N is the same as the M/T I would expect similar gains.

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-...20AT%20SRS.pdf
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I wouldn't trust AEM's website too much ... they said the aem v2 gave a 16 hp gain on the 01+ dx :|
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Originally Posted by Mirage
According to the Dyno posted for the 01+ EX A/T, the SRI gave a best gain of 6.6 HP @ 5,750 RPM. Since the engine & the SRI P/N is the same as the M/T I would expect similar gains.

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-...20AT%20SRS.pdf
I understand the idea of "similar gains" but since the torque curve of a A/T is different from a M/T then it really wouldn't be a true comparison, would it?
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Old Jan 21, 2005
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it is not bad...

I didn't know it gives more than 1hp
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Old Jan 21, 2005
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the 6 horsepower isnt even at 6100 rpm where the civic ex peaks at stock....i think it was around 4550 was +6 horsepower and at 6100 was like 3 horse. i never heard about that +16 horsepower that seems kind of high, but i wont argue wiht a dyno chart.
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Old Jan 21, 2005
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it wasn't a dyno chart... it was an excell graph
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Originally Posted by chocobo15_2000
not worth the dyno...
i concur.
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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They don't show a dyno if it gives less hp than stock. It's bad for business.
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Yeah, i switched my aem cai back to stock airbox and the gains are ridic. CAI slowed down the car.
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stock air box = best for D17
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Originally Posted by Mirage
According to the Dyno posted for the 01+ EX A/T, the SRI gave a best gain of 6.6 HP @ 5,750 RPM. Since the engine & the SRI P/N is the same as the M/T I would expect similar gains.

http://www.aempower.com/pdf/dyno/22-...20AT%20SRS.pdf
are you sure that chart is right? 6.6 hp gain just with a aem SRI is kinda high dont you think? if that chart is telling the trueth then it does more then i thought it would do.
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
I wouldn't trust AEM's website too much ... they said the aem v2 gave a 16 hp gain on the 01+ dx :|
Thats like a 100% gain. Man the D17 sucks at everything but fuel economy.
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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^^ true. maybe ill go back to my stock airbox and choke it even more with one of those "ToRnAdO" air swirlies. then the d17 will show it's true potential......
45mpg!!!
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Originally Posted by bobsagator
I understand the idea of "similar gains" but since the torque curve of a A/T is different from a M/T then it really wouldn't be a true comparison, would it?
The torque curve of the ENGINE is different?
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Originally Posted by jackal903
stock air box = best for D17
evidence?
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Originally Posted by Mirage
evidence?
-piping the same size as the TB = best = stock

-resonator matches air charge with intake pulses

-stock airbox acts as a reservoir of air ensuring power on demand
(more torque)

-stock intake is designed to keep air moving fast

An aftermarket intake usually only meets one of these requirements, if any.

If the oem intake was flawed or in some way restrictive, you would be seeing alot more than 4whp gain at 6200rpm after swapping to an aftermarket K&N intake.
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Originally Posted by gearbox
-piping the same size as the TB = best = stock
False

Originally Posted by gearbox
-resonator matches air charge with intake pulses
False, the resonator is for sound reduction

Originally Posted by gearbox
-stock airbox acts as a reservoir of air ensuring power on demand (more torque)
Could not be more False

Originally Posted by gearbox
-stock intake is designed to keep air moving fast
True, but irrelevent in this case. btw, so does a straw

Originally Posted by gearbox
An aftermarket intake usually only meets one of these requirements, if any.
I didnt see any valid requirements above so I can't comment.

Originally Posted by gearbox
If the oem intake was flawed or in some way restrictive, you would be seeing alot more than 4whp gain at 6200rpm after swapping to an aftermarket K&N intake.
False. Removing one restriction does not remove all restrictions. But if what you are saying is true, then how did you get +4 HP with the K&N?
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Old Jan 22, 2005
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Oh well I tried. To me anyway, the stock intake feels faster because I drive more in the lower rpms. I really couldn't tell any gains with the K&N to justify keeping it. Maybe look up the definition of resonator. It's more than just sound reduction.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Oh well I tried. To me anyway, the stock intake feels faster because I drive more in the lower rpms. I really couldn't tell any gains with the K&N to justify keeping it. Maybe look up the definition of resonator. It's more than just sound reduction.
I am quite aware of what a resonator is and they can be more than just sound deadener but unfortunately that is all it is used for in the case of the factory D17 intake. Thats not true for all intakes though, the whole concept of the AEM V2 intake is to tune the inlet tract resonation to give a more pronounced charge air effect.

Also, You have to be very careful about how a car feels after a change. The majority of people cant feel a 5 hp difference. I have dynoed & tuned many, many cars and I cant feel 5HP, I assume others can't as well. That is why I always want a true before & after dyno test before I judge if something is any good.
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Yes which is why I'll be getting one more dyno done before I say anything about pullies and header. I hate to just guess at it. I can feel a difference with the intakes tho, not much but it's there. But on a D17, 5-10whp is alot if it's only starting with around 80.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
They don't show a dyno if it gives less hp than stock. It's bad for business.
so true
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i dunno, i have to agree with gearbox.. the resonator is acoustically designed...which deals heavily with how the air travels. Nothing will give you the same filtration as oem either.
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You know, some service guy at the dealer was talking with me, and when I told him I put the stock back in, he seemed to know alot about why it's so much better. Seemed kinda odd because he was all into performance. He said on these cars tho, stock makes more power. I believe it.
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so if stock makes more power why the hell are all of us sticking aftermarket intakes in our car just to reduce power. i dont understand how a bunch of heavy, black boxes with a tiny intlet tube is better then a wide, short aluminum tube with a big cone filter on the end that allows fast flow...
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Beats me. I just know my car feels its fastest and best right now out of the three years I've had it. And that's with stock intake (I've tried K&N and AEM) and stock exhaust.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Beats me. I just know my car feels its fastest and best right now out of the three years I've had it. And that's with stock intake (I've tried K&N and AEM) and stock exhaust.
Rather that what feels fastest, what were your horsepower values with each of the above listed mods? What were your 1/4 times? If you dont have at least that, how can you claim to make any kind of an informed decision?
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Originally Posted by Wolfgang5884
so true
sorry, but so false.

Do you actually think that something that was dynoed with a +HP gain on an A/T would lose HP on a M/T?

If so, why?
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I gained 2whp after tuning the a/f with stock intake
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