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Old Nov 28, 2004
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Question bolt ons = hp ?

can bolt ons really add up hp? if i would get dc exhust system including 4-2-1 headers how much you think ill gain? and also cam gear and aem pulley ..would it be worth it ? from all this how much will i gain?
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cam gear wont do a whole lot, neither will the headers and exhaust, btw the head/exh. you might see 3-4 whp, if your lucky. Save up and go turbo or swap
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AEM cam gear and pullies wont do too much for you unless you tune it right.... the exhaust/header combo will be pricey.... as said by the devil himself (devilvtec) maybe 3-4 on a good day.
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I don't think they have 4-2-1 headers for our cars anyway... just 4-1
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Bolt ons are pretty much useless.

Boost or swap.
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from what everyone says on here, you'll see no gains with those mods. they all say that would have spent their money on something else like ICE or looks. if you want to see our cars go fast its either swap or turbo.
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swap is much more expensive...turbo or nos would be better if u have limited budget
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someone on here had intake/header/exhaust/cam gear/flywheel and clutch that was pulling off 120 something whp i believe. not sure if it was offical.. but its hard to believe but i guess it varies in many situations.

d17's dont respond well to bolts on. investing hundred and hundreds of dollars for small amount of gains/power is definately not worth the investment.
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def save for boost or swap


or both if u have the $$
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you're better off with the type-r decal
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Originally Posted by D17thgen
someone on here had intake/header/exhaust/cam gear/flywheel and clutch that was pulling off 120 something whp i believe. not sure if it was offical.. but its hard to believe but i guess it varies in many situations.

d17's dont respond well to bolts on. investing hundred and hundreds of dollars for small amount of gains/power is definately not worth the investment.
It was 125 hp and I saw the same thread. He had the dyno to prove it too, but he also had a lightened flywheel. In his case he gained around 20 hp with I/h/e and a lightened fly wheel.
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bolt ons will become much more worth it with new ECU replacement options (hondata, AEM)
theres nothing wrong with the d17... just the EMS. with a full programable EMS and I/E/H cam gears, remove power steer/AC and some mild head work the d17 should put down 120-150 hp depending on how much you want to advance the timing
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aem cam gears does something to our cars? i thought it dont do nothin at all unless u got turbo?
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Originally Posted by se7engen_riDe
aem cam gears does something to our cars? i thought it dont do nothin at all unless u got turbo?
It dont do nuthin unless you tune it. If you install it "straight up" then it's just like a factory cam gear only anodized. If you take it to a dyno and adjust it, you may pick up a couple of HP.
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Here's that dyno link http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=183085
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If you take it to a dyno and adjust it, you may pick up a couple of HP.
The famous words "a couple HP"
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Originally Posted by Mirage
It dont do nuthin unless you tune it. If you install it "straight up" then it's just like a factory cam gear only anodized. If you take it to a dyno and adjust it, you may pick up a couple of HP.
I have been to a dyno and played with it. the best setting is zero. Unless you have a milled head or an aftermarket cam, it is useless.
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yeah, I'm focussing on the aesthetic aspects of my car seeing as how Im about to go off to college and will need the car to run well for the next 2-3 years.

IMO:

Nice Suspension + Nice Rims + axle-back exhaust = Nice car + slow but reliable (Accept your slowness, or sell it and buy an RSX or an older GSR)

Swap = Expensive as !@#$

Turbo = Semi-Expensive + engine doesn't last as long as stock and you can blow a gasket if you get carried away

It really depends on how much you want to get out of your D17 and how much money you have to work with.

I suggest focussing on aesthetic value and accepting the fact that D17s are slow as f*ck. If you want something fast, buy a CRX. If you want something aesthetically appealling and fast, buy an RSX. Otherwise, come to terms with what you have to work with or get something else.
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Not enough! You will feel the car respond a bit quicker though.
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boltons = hp? no sorry, good try tho.
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ershall "accept your slowness", hah i like that
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I'll never accept it! I just broke the 100whp mark (dyno at 100.7 whp) and I'm not stopping there. Next goal, 110whp altho that's set a bit high.
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when did you last dyno your car gearbox? Last time I remember you didnt get to the 100WHP mark.
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a few Hp makes a big diff when you dont have many to start with
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cross your fingers for hondata...
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Stop spending for bolt ons NOW. You'll just be in disappointment with the minimal gains. BOOST IT that is all
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cross your fingers for hondata...
that won't come out soon enough i haven't heard any progress on it.
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Originally Posted by mykungfuisthebe
bolt ons will become much more worth it with new ECU replacement options (hondata, AEM)
theres nothing wrong with the d17... just the EMS. with a full programable EMS and I/E/H cam gears, remove power steer/AC and some mild head work the d17 should put down 120-150 hp depending on how much you want to advance the timing
That's a lot of time and money for 150hp. Not to mention no A/C and power steering. Not worth it if you ask me.
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I agree man power steering and AC are so nice especially in heavy traffic
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