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08-13-2004
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The jet chip isn't too good, because it may mess up the air/fuel curve or make it untunable. I think all it does is advance the ignition timing, which isn't really good to do.
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Rep Power: 0 gearbox do you know of any other chip? something that might actually do something? My friend chipped his VW....its insane what chips for VW's do, JUST with a chip he has 260torque and I don't nkow how much HP but not to the wheels, too bad we don't have anything like that
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Originally Posted by j-jolly
it sounds like to me that "skillwill" is an *** it was just a qustion not a statment. and from what i see we ussally get about 3-5 hp per bolt on. on an average. and i felt a good gain from my header but it is only because i put a 2 1/2" d/p on at the same time with a catco cat so with those three things i felt a good gain.
The girls don't think i'm an ******* only the chumps.
Smurfette sounds to me like he's a tough guy
10.4 on an 1/8: sounds to me like your movin fast
ultimate sleeper with stock tires
not When you bolted-in your radio did you notice more gain
And first of all if you read the first 5 post you'll see that it starts of with a question then he starts makin his assumption. How are you gonna say you can make 160 hp from bolts, Then after dude shut him down . he's like i'll get at least 30 hp gain.
Dumbass.
that **** is still close to 160
127 stock + magic bolts(30)
You do the math.
Next time mind your business.
Go see if you can pull under 16' in your ****
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Originally Posted by TMRakip
I have the following mods on my engine. I don't know what the actual gains are, but it does feel a little more powerful, and the way I drive I have been getting better mileage...
K&N FIPK-II Intake - about 5 HP gain, according to K&N, many on the site say it is te only intake worth buying as you don't lose any low end torque
HP Racing Header - No idea about gain, see wild claims, but no real dynographs. Headers are basically useless without:
Random Technologies Super High Flow Catalytic Converter - Your Header and Exhaust are pointless without one of these. Luckily, the RT one comes with a B-Pipe to hook on to your shiny new header, so it actually will do something!
RS-R ExMag Cat-Back Exhaust - Nicest Sounding Exhaust, to me. I don't like sounding like a giant weedwacker. This will give you a few HP, in tandem with an intake/header/catayltic converter
JetChip ECU Upgrade - Don't really know what this does, but I told them what I did to the car and they allegedly made changes. Felt a difference before/after anyway.
I would say all in all, maybe, MAYBE a total of 15 peak HP gained with these, and these are considered to be the best on the market. By peak HP I mean near the top of the RPM range, which is basically useless except for passing on the highway. If you really want power...Lighten that Pig! Look at the Lotus Elise. Under 2000lbs with a 190HP Toyota Celica Engine in it, and it will smoke A LOT of cars. Another example of extreme lightening is my M3. I have custom Carbon Fiber Hood, Trunk, Front and Rear Quarter Panels and Door Panels. I have 2 racing seats in it, no stereo etc. I did do some extreme engine tuning, but it is even faster than when it came back from Dinan now that it has shed about 500-600 lbs.
And while we're on the topic. SEARCH!!!
K&N FIPK-II Intake - about 5 HP gain, according to K&N, many on the site say it is te only intake worth buying as you don't lose any low end torque
HP Racing Header - No idea about gain, see wild claims, but no real dynographs. Headers are basically useless without:
Random Technologies Super High Flow Catalytic Converter - Your Header and Exhaust are pointless without one of these. Luckily, the RT one comes with a B-Pipe to hook on to your shiny new header, so it actually will do something!
RS-R ExMag Cat-Back Exhaust - Nicest Sounding Exhaust, to me. I don't like sounding like a giant weedwacker. This will give you a few HP, in tandem with an intake/header/catayltic converter
JetChip ECU Upgrade - Don't really know what this does, but I told them what I did to the car and they allegedly made changes. Felt a difference before/after anyway.
I would say all in all, maybe, MAYBE a total of 15 peak HP gained with these, and these are considered to be the best on the market. By peak HP I mean near the top of the RPM range, which is basically useless except for passing on the highway. If you really want power...Lighten that Pig! Look at the Lotus Elise. Under 2000lbs with a 190HP Toyota Celica Engine in it, and it will smoke A LOT of cars. Another example of extreme lightening is my M3. I have custom Carbon Fiber Hood, Trunk, Front and Rear Quarter Panels and Door Panels. I have 2 racing seats in it, no stereo etc. I did do some extreme engine tuning, but it is even faster than when it came back from Dinan now that it has shed about 500-600 lbs.
And while we're on the topic. SEARCH!!!
Just curious.
Heard that exhaust is sweet.
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the thing I dont understand about this thread is, of course everyone has an aggressive attitude, but I do think at first it started off as friendly advice, then when it wasn't taken and advice was doubted, tension arises, then we start bashing one another, I would bet money on it that with bolt-ons, you're lucky to get 5-10hp, I'd even go far enough to say you might not even feel the difference, but it's easy to imagine a difference in the feel of how the car drives, personally I think I feel a bit more responsiveness in the gas pedal because of the cat-back, but I don't think it's got much hp gains from it.
so overall..
A) if you ask for advice, don't tell the person they're wrong right after you just asked them.
B) uhm whats B? something about if you're doubting someone you asked for advice, don't expect to be treated nicely you're basically telling someone their wrong or you don't believe them when you just asked for advice!
--not saying anyone cares about my opinion (and I'm sure most people realize this situation anyway..) possibly Dr. Phil oriented, I just figured I'd share my opinion...
BTW; once all the bolt-ons are installed, let us know how it turned out.
(however, once someone claims something they probably won't back down even if they are wrong)
so overall..
A) if you ask for advice, don't tell the person they're wrong right after you just asked them.
B) uhm whats B? something about if you're doubting someone you asked for advice, don't expect to be treated nicely you're basically telling someone their wrong or you don't believe them when you just asked for advice!
--not saying anyone cares about my opinion (and I'm sure most people realize this situation anyway..) possibly Dr. Phil oriented, I just figured I'd share my opinion...
BTW; once all the bolt-ons are installed, let us know how it turned out.
(however, once someone claims something they probably won't back down even if they are wrong)
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Rep Power: 311 its been proven that intake/header/exhaust/cat will not put down 160hp for your civic. if you dont believe it, be my guest and try it...
i dont think the little D17 would be able to push out so much power with a minor mod. throwing bigger pipes on an engine thats fairly small wont do for performance. if your serious about gaining power, save all the money you got for the bolt-ons and add $1500 on top of that for a turbo kit. now you can claim 160hp+
i dont think the little D17 would be able to push out so much power with a minor mod. throwing bigger pipes on an engine thats fairly small wont do for performance. if your serious about gaining power, save all the money you got for the bolt-ons and add $1500 on top of that for a turbo kit. now you can claim 160hp+
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Rep Power: 0 we have a really restrictive ecu ... which is why many members want to buy the aem engine management thing and get rid of our stock ecu and see how much power we can make with that
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Originally Posted by DaddyFatSacks
Gearbox is deffinatly into performance more than alot of use posting here. He eats, sleeps and drinks it, he has done so many mods to his car just to switch to something else, it's nuts!
Hey Gearbox, that DH Racing pulley was a total piece of crap huh, mines sitting in the box it came in. Bastards......
Hey Gearbox, that DH Racing pulley was a total piece of crap huh, mines sitting in the box it came in. Bastards......
haha Mine is still in the box too..its even still in the original plastic baggy
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Rep Power: 0 Skillwill - The RS-R sounds pretty much like stock until you punch it. That's what I like about it, the sound is kinda hard to describe, it is unlike anything else on the market 
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Rep Power: 279 most of bolt-ons are just for "look" in my opinion...
as i posted on the other thread about bolt-ons...
save up a lil more and get it turboed...that's the only and best way.
as i posted on the other thread about bolt-ons...
save up a lil more and get it turboed...that's the only and best way.
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Rep Power: 0 this is why lots of people go domestic (I would have if I had $$). HP TV dyno tested a 1994 Z28 camaro 6sp the other day and gained 30RWHP from header, intake, exhaust. Not bad for 120,000+ miles.
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Originally Posted by acjones20
this is why lots of people go domestic (I would have if I had $$). HP TV dyno tested a 1994 Z28 camaro 6sp the other day and gained 30RWHP from header, intake, exhaust. Not bad for 120,000+ miles.
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Originally Posted by skillwill
Do you also get 3- 5 hp for bolt-ons parts?
The girls don't think i'm an ******* only the chumps.
Smurfette sounds to me like he's a tough guy
10.4 on an 1/8: sounds to me like your movin fast
ultimate sleeper with stock tires
not
When you bolted-in your radio did you notice more gain
And first of all if you read the first 5 post you'll see that it starts of with a question then he starts makin his assumption. How are you gonna say you can make 160 hp from bolts, Then after dude shut him down . he's like i'll get at least 30 hp gain.
Dumbass.
that **** is still close to 160
127 stock + magic bolts(30)
You do the math.
Next time mind your business.
Go see if you can pull under 16' in your ****
The girls don't think i'm an ******* only the chumps.
Smurfette sounds to me like he's a tough guy
10.4 on an 1/8: sounds to me like your movin fast
ultimate sleeper with stock tires
not When you bolted-in your radio did you notice more gain
And first of all if you read the first 5 post you'll see that it starts of with a question then he starts makin his assumption. How are you gonna say you can make 160 hp from bolts, Then after dude shut him down . he's like i'll get at least 30 hp gain.
Dumbass.
that **** is still close to 160
127 stock + magic bolts(30)
You do the math.
Next time mind your business.
Go see if you can pull under 16' in your ****
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On the 6th gen civics the aftermarket intake goes out further from the engine more like close to the fender. On our civics it only stays in the middle right above the transmission. Another words you will have gain for a short while until the car has warmed up.
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Originally Posted by jttegx
those engines are like twice as larger. even 6-cylinders can gain 30whp with bolt ons. not sure about 4
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Rep Power: 789 Well the 6th gen vics get alot more gain from mods than we do, and they have 1.6L. The ecu isn't as environment friendly tho.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Well the 6th gen vics get alot more gain from mods than we do, and they have 1.6L. The ecu isn't as environment friendly tho.
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Rep Power: 789 What you don't think a supercharger will make it faster?
Actually, the 6th gen is lev and our cars are ulev. The guy up there is right saying more vroom when you hurt the environment, lol.
Actually, the 6th gen is lev and our cars are ulev. The guy up there is right saying more vroom when you hurt the environment, lol.
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Rep Power: 0 IMO, even though u do get forced inductions for our cars, it still wouldnt be fast...for a forced induction car. correct me if i am wrong but...if i installed a turbo kit for my car...( D17a) then i would be pushin about...200 hp? maybe a bit higher??
with that..all stock v6 accord could spank me! =/
Lets just say, if u want a fast car, get somethin that has a v6 engine or bigger.
GET A DAMM SUPRA...=) ( MY DREAM CAR )
with that..all stock v6 accord could spank me! =/
Lets just say, if u want a fast car, get somethin that has a v6 engine or bigger.
GET A DAMM SUPRA...=) ( MY DREAM CAR )
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Rep Power: 0 weight matters... you can't just ignore the fact the accord is much heavier... a turbo civic shouldn't have any problems getting into the 14's, which is definitely faster than a stock V6 accord...
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Rep Power: 789 The SF kit was able to do 180whp at 8psi I think. That's almost double what a normal civic puts out. You also need to consider other factors such as weight. Our civics are lighter than most cars that already come fast from the factory. I've heard of turbo civics pulling on Sti.
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Rep Power: 0 go check on the site www.hondacars.com look for the curb weight and compare...i would imagine it would be more like 100-200 maybe?
