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I've been running NGK iridium for a few thousand miles and recently ruined them when I added fuel injector cleaner (greased lightning). So they were coated with green stuff. It didn't affect the performance since they were still new, but I wanted to switch them out anyway. So I bought some v-power plugs (copper for $2 each) and installed those. Well what a difference! Car turns over much better and engine just sounds better overall. I like them better than iridium now and will stick with them. The v-power technology has a groove in the center electrode that reduces voltage requirements. I also noticed that my car voltage is down at 11.5 when cruising instead of 11.9 before.

EDIT: v-power sucks. Uses tons more voltage and fouled out after a day of use. Stick with iridium.

 
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the vpower copper one?

i have the vpower platinum one. still just like 2-3 bucks each i think.

spending anymore for spark plug is just silly in most cases.

 
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you getting that green stuff casue your always playing with addtivies..

 
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Heh, yeah. I'm gonna try lucas next, but not for a while. And yes, I'm using the copper v-power. Good stuff.

 
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I have used lucas oil in my car already and its been using it for the last 5 oil changes.

You notice the car alot smoother.. After the next oil change you notice the oil is black as all hell .. and I used systhenic.. second time using lucas , i felt like my car came back to life like the way i got it form the dealer ship. oil come out cleaner and cleaner each time .. Get it, You'll like it!

 
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wait..

using greased lighting FUEL SYSTEM cleaner makes ur spark plugs green?? confirm this plz...

i'm planning to use greased lighting fuel system cleaner (12000miles thingie) after my next oilchange...........plz confirm

were u guys talking about the OIL additives (greased lighting & lucas)

ANYWAY....gear, u were talking about greased lighting, right? were you talking about the FUEL SYSTEM cleaner or the (small bottle) oil additive??

 
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I use those also! They work great for boosted cars running low boost too!

 
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yea.. ngk iridium plugs arent too good after u start dumping stuff in your tank... i recently switched over to the denso iridium plugs, and my milage has gone back up to ~28mpg give or take 1-2mpg

 
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R u sure???

well, the last stuff i used was chevron techron....

after one complete tank, i switched to NGK Iridium IX and made a come back from 25~26 MPG to 31~32 MPG...

should i use Greased Lighting fuel system cleaner at my next oil change???

 
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na.. your going to mess up your plugs.. addtives like fuel cleaners and such arent good. does anybody know which is the one that honda uses? try lucal oil it help alot wih gas milage.. but i would stay away from fuel additves

 
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Dude nevermind. I think those new plugs I put in suck. I'm gonna put back the iridiums and hopefully everything will go back to normal. It was running good at first, but now it became very slow! I don't know what's happening.

 
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oh man..............hehe, hope ur car's ok..

anyway.........oil additive's good? from what i know, it's not recommended to use oil additive in our vic, right?

 
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Don't use any additives. My car is a mess now. I put iridium back in, but the car has no power when I floor it.

 
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Turned off vafcII and now the car is doing okay with the iridium. Those stupid ngk v-power fouled out in one day! Sucks. I'm sticking with NGK iridium.

 
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you should change the name of the thread to "ngk v-power sucks!"

 
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You should use products you "review" for more than an hour before doing so. Just in recent memory, the K&N FIPK, greased lightning, and now these plugs have all gotten rave reviews - which after a few days (or hours) were promptly retracted. Not to start something here, it just seems to be a common trend lately that doesn't help anybody in the long run.

I haven't officially commented on my NGK Iridium IX's yet, simply because I want to see how they hold up over a few thousand miles before I recommend someone drop $6 a plug on them. Initially my impressions were good, now the car's back to running normally - which isn't bad, but not great. Definitely not worth the $$, and neither are the Denso IK20's.

 
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Well you're right. I'm too quick to jump to conclusions. But it only took a day to realize the regular plugs were fouled. Iridium seems to have a higher heat range that's better suited for my modded engine.

Should I make a new post about all the products I hate now? Actually the fipk is still good. Just the filter is bad. And greased lightning I couldn't tell if there was damage until I checked the plugs. I've been running the iridiums for over 2k miles and they're still doing good. I plan on keeping them.

 
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well I just used prestone fuel cleaner, recommended every 4000 miles, will it hurt my NGK plugs?

 
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I think I got a bum set of IK20's... after 15K (ish) they were pretty fouled. Not just the usual layer of carbon either - fouled. My stock Denso plat's looked far better by comparison. Hopefully the IX's will hold up better in the long run.

If I was in your position right now I'd probably just flush all the fluids in that car, throw in a fresh set of filters/plugs/other consumables, and just start over. You seem to be having some bad car luck lately, hopefully things will improve. Hopefully mine will too - in addition to breaking my air box last week, I rearended someone today and now I need to get my bumper refinished. $$$$

 
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That sucks. My car is going through problems as well. Might even be the timing. Cars are too much trouble sometimes.

 
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lol make up ur mind dammit.

my vpower platinum is running fine.

 
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Are you sure it was the fuel additive that turned your plugs that green color or are you just running lean??? I have used the Chevron additive for a long time and when I changed my plugs after 30,000 they looked clean....

 
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yea yea, i wanna know too about this!

 
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Now that i think about it, I too have been using Chevron Techron every 6K on my car - neither of my plugs came out looking green.

 
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well, gear said that it's gonna be green with greased lighting..

and that is the stuff that i wanna use for my next oil change........hm..

 
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All I know is that after 96,000 my car was running pretty bad. At first I thought spark plugs (I have IK20's at 65,000) but they were still in good conditions. So I filled with Chevron Techron for a month and even added their fuel cleaner twice in two months. The results were the same the car didn't changed. Three weeks ago I added Greased Lightning fuel cleaner and the changes have been great. The car responds a lot better now. Not like it did when it was new but it was a enough change to notice when on the highway.

 
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Now, I'm not saying that adding an additive will give some kind of noticable results...I just use it to keep my injectors clean....I have yet to be able to feel a "difference" in any of the cars I have treated with certain additives. I'm just wanting to know if gears car might be running a little lean...If it is, it needs to be fixed A.S.A.P....It could really cause some serious damage!

 
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Well I used chevron techron and it did not help. The greased lightning does make a difference, but it's really strong. My iridiums are doing good, but I had to turn off the vafc yesterday. My car was running like crap. Now it's better and doesn't bog when flooring it, but I really need to find out about this. It doesn't seem like the head porting would do much. The car feels okay now except for rough idle. Honda is telling me everything is fine and the engine light comes on if there's even a slight a/f problem. I don't buy it though.

 
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Oh and those v-power plugs had a white coating on the curved electrode after only a day of driving. That could indicate advanced timing, too hot a plug, or too lean a/f ratio. Whatever it is, I'm very worried. But the iridiums seem to be holding up for now.

 
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If you want to actually help your car with a fuel system cleaner, try running something like this: http://www.lubecontrol.com/id15.html

It actually is good for the car and most of the time it will increase gas mileage.

For something locally available, the Lucas UCL and Fuel System cleaner is pretty good.

It is true that some fuel system cleaners can foul spark plugs out. The techron additive is very mild and safe, so most likely you won't have a problem with that.

As for you guys using the Lucas additive in your oil... stop wasting your money. It does nothing but trap air in your oil. Don't believe me? Go play with the Lucas demo at the auto parts store where you spin the gears. Spin the side with lucas in it fast for about 30 seconds. It will get very light in color. Look closely... the oil is filled with tiny air bubbles. The side without Lucas in it has very few bubbles. Air doesn't lubricate at all and Lucas does more harm than good. You can just give me the $10 every oil change instead of wasting it on the Lucas oil additive.