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Old Feb 24, 2004
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Try putting the Vtec engement on passive like I described in my instructions...It might have something to do with the pressure drop before it engages when set too high.


passive - check
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That's good to hear!!! I just ordeered my JDM VAFC II (Silver) from Ebay...I got a good deal for $285...I'm going to sell my Vafc I to my friend with a Integra GSR.
could tha JDM ness of ur vafc be it?
just a thought
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Originally posted by gearbox
Everyone that has it has been saying good things about it. I'm getting mine in tomorrow, so I'll let you know how it is without any tuning. Norrinradd said it's only a 6 wire hookup.
Yup, definitely the best bolt-on mod period, when properly tuned at the dyno. Even though I only gained 7whp and about 3-4ft/lb of torque throughout most of the powerband (mid to high especially, low-ends the same), you can feel a good smooth pull throughout and much much better throttle response. I was especially surprised I got such gains considering I only have 2 other perf mods done to my engine (intake and venom, I'm gonna re-dyno without the venom as when its off feels like the car pulls better, want to see if its interfering in any way w/ the vafc2). FYI, yup the hookup is very easy (6 wires, 7 if you need to hookup the vtm due to cel), the hardest part is deciding where to put it (mine's in my glovebox). Gearbox, let me know how your DH pulley and ported head turns out. I think I may want to get them as well, thanks.
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could tha JDM ness of ur vafc be it?
just a thought
Should be fine, I think the only difference is that JDM will only display km vs. mph and may actually have a knock sensor (did not see this setting or function in the u.s. vafc2 black).
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the vtecs in 7th gens are ivtecs and it diff acordeing to one website and one shop i talked too
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We have Vtec-E for the LAST TIME!!! And it works fine....Search
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the 01's have just normal vtec....
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Can someone post a pic of where they connected wires? I'm reading the book and it's showing more than 10 different wires.

Should I just use the one Carbonfly posted in tech and just tap those wires? I'm really confused.
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Originally posted by gearbox
Can someone post a pic of where they connected wires? I'm reading the book and it's showing more than 10 different wires.

Should I just use the one Carbonfly posted in tech and just tap those wires? I'm really confused.
Yes, use Fly's diagram and ensure the VTM wire is connected. I would recommend against taps and solder your wire connections to ensure proper contact.
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Solder as Norrin said....If you tap the wires, the connection won't be as good and could cause malfunction
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I'm looking at mine and there's alot more than 6 wires to connect.

So do the other wires just color code to the ECU wires? Like throttle, power, ground...

Also, I'm a bit confused about the initial setup before turning the car on. It says a bunch of stuff to do. Can anyone explain? And we've got 4 cylinders, right? How does the acceleration thing work?

And is it a must to disconnect the battery before install?
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you should just take it somewhere if you can...It kinda seems to be over your head a bit. I really don't mean that in a smartass way, it's just that you can really screw your car up if you don't know what your doing.
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Your're right, there's 13 total and you'll need to connect 11 of them (everything but VTC and TDC). My bad, my post on the 6/7 wires were wire types/functions (Power, Ground, RPM, Throttle, VTM, VTEC, and Pressure) and not actual total as there are input and output wires for ground, power, vtec, etc. The vafc2 wires don't color code to ecu wires you'll have look at the plugs and eyeball which wires are what, just follow their added diagram and you'll be fine.

As far as initial setup...

Just before doing initial setup, while turning ignition on press gas pedal down for 10 seconds, then release for another 10 seconds before moving on to initial setup settings step. This step takes care of step 6 below...

1. Sensor = 06 & 06
2. Cylinders = 4
3. Throttle Voltage = automatic
4. Throttle Type = Arrow pointing NE
5. VTEC Type = 1
6. See above...
7. VTC = N/A
8. Turn off ignition and your settings get saved

*** Yes, you must disconnect the negative battery terminal before installing the wires!!! You're working w/ lower gauge wires and more power compared to lights and one crossed wire could fry your ECU (during the wire connection process). Sounds scary, but just disconnect it and make double sure which wires go to what. You'll be fine, just PM me if you have any other questions.

cwick is right though... if this seems overwhelming just take it somewhere to get installed as you don't want to fry your ecu if your unsure about the process. APEX-I shops are few and far between, but most dynos that tune vafc2's will install them as well.

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Thanks for the info. I'm just not clear on where the other wires go that are not in the diagram.

EDIT: Sorry, I'm stupid. I just realized some wires are doubles that connect to the same ECU wire. Okay, so I'm just following the wire diagram. THANKS!!

Hopefully later tonight I can get this to work. My mount is almost done.

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Anyone have pics of their install? I just tried my mount and it's not fitting right. Now I need to rethink this.
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I had one, but I had to format my Comp. I just used the mount that came with the VAFC and put where my cup holders are (or right above them)
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im planning on tuckin the wires back
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Cool. I think I'm just gonna put it in the glove box with the original stand. It really doesn't match my interior lights at all...
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Just started reading about these, are they worth the coin? How easy are these to adjust without having to spend money at a Dyno shop? Are they ment to use on a stock car or more if you have bolt ons, intake exhaust?
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well.. if you have an air/fuel meter, you can sorta get in the area where you want, but i think its worth it, it gives the most proven hp out of any other mod you can do for that price...
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what kind of stan dose it come with. Can i unpluge it and dosent it come with a case like for a cd face plate .
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what about a Apex AVCR II ???
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When its unpluged/turned off will it go back to stock seting
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I just installed mine. Not very happy cause I couldn't solder connections. Had to use stupid splices that suck and I hate electronics. Well, hopefully it stays good. It's so freezing cold outside and I was doing this for a couple hours.

Anyway, I guess it's working. I took it out for a spin and everything seemed to be working for the monitors and stuff.

Thanks again everyone for the help. Once spring comes around, I may redo the connections. There's just so little space back there!!

And no I didn't feel any gain. It's all stock settings, and stock car. Just glad it's working properly.

Oh to answer the questions, once it's plugged in, it stays plugged in. Also, it saves your settings when ignition is turned off.

Mine's just sitting in the glove box, but I'll post pics once I get the mount put in.
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Here it is mounted with the Apexi stand, and then with the custom glove box removable cover.



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I don't think so, since it's pretty much like any other intake/exhaust type mod. The only way would be if it somehow messes up the car. Then it wouldn't be covered, since the aftermarket part caused the problem.
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how does the vafc differ from the avc-r?
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Yes, it will void the warrenty...Anytime you install a mod that lets you adjust ECU settings or etc..
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