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Old Jul 4, 2003
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Is this true? The HP Gain?

Got this off of ebay...





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HKS-A Honda Civic 2001-2003 EX Stainless Steel Racing Downpipe.

Fits Only EX Models of the Civic.

Replaces the Complete Pipe Until the B-Pipe. Replaces the Stock Catalytic Converter that sits on the Header.

FITMENT SPECIFICATIONS

CAR : Honda Civic 2001-2003, ONLY EX Models.

Pipe Material : SUS-304 STAINLESS STEEL

B-Pipe Material : SUS-304 Stainless Steel, 2.5"

Bends : MANDREL BENDS Only

Welding : ROBOTIC TIG-WELDING

Made in : USA


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BOLT-ON HONDA CIVIC EX 1.7L 2001-2003 RACING DOWNPIPE.

THIS SYSTEM IS MADE ENTIRELY FROM SUS-304 STAINLESS STEEL. WILL LAST FOR A LIFETIME, WILL NEVER RUST.

This Replaces the Super-Restrictive Factory Catalytic Converter that sits right after the Header Merges onto the engine. Uses the Top Stock Half.

REMEMBER, THIS IS FROM STAINLESS STEEL, NOT!!! MILD STEEL. MILD STEEL EXHAUSTS are JUNK, AND THEY RUST OUT IN 6 Months, THIS SYSTEM WILL LAST FOREVER, AND WILL HAVE A VERY HIGH RESALE VALUE.

EVERYTHING IS STAINLESS STEEL. 2.5" Diameter Piping throughout the system.

WILL FIT ONLY EX Model Civic's. Will NOT fit the LX Version Models.

We Ran a 01 Civic 2 Dr EX with this pipe, and the Cold Air Intake we sell as well too. Gains are as follows.

2001 Civic EX 2 Dr with 29,585 Miles

HP GAIN : 8.9 at the Wheels

TQ GAIN : 6.9 at the Wheels

This was also with the stock CATBACK System. If you have a Catback for your car, you will get even bigger gains

ALSO, THE WELDING IS FULLY TIG-WELDING. PLUS, THEY HAVE GONE OVER EVERY WELD AND RE WELDED IT TO BE SURE IT WILL NEVER, NEVER BREAK.

THIS SYSTEM IS MADE BY HKS-A USA in Illinois. to our Specs.

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Oh and our catylatic converter does NOT sit on the header.. and notice how it says the car is an EX? Hmm...
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i think thats why it said not LX cuz the cat is in the header on an LX
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isnt 2.5 too big too?
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not for a downpipe i wouldnt think, i wouldnt say anthing bigger than 2.25 for the exhaust piping though
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i agree, bunch of crap
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yup pretty much any advertised hp rating is gonna be BS
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"Replaces the Complete Pipe Until the B-Pipe. Replaces the Stock Catalytic Converter that sits on the Header."


this is only on the LX where the cat is on the header, sound like BS cause ex cat is not on the header... yet they say will only fit EX.... plus bolt on gains for a civic of our gen... i'd like to see dyno's first
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Re: Is this true? The HP Gain?

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REMEMBER, THIS IS FROM STAINLESS STEEL, NOT!!! MILD STEEL. MILD STEEL EXHAUSTS are JUNK, AND THEY RUST OUT IN 6 Months, THIS SYSTEM WILL LAST FOREVER, AND WILL HAVE A VERY HIGH RESALE VALUE.
You need to read carefully.

"this is from stainless steel, not!!!"

Means it's not stainless steel.

"Mild steel"

Means it IS mild steel.

Then he talks about how crappy it is.



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8.9 hp from a downpipe...right..
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Yeah right
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Here's a better way to ask your question, to filter out all the annoying posts..."Does anybody actually have this product, or used it in the past? If so, could you respond here with your comments regarding thier claimed HP increase?"
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stick with the kamikaze or HP w/ cat on this one.
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Well, if you look at the picture of this downpipe, and compare it to the HP header w/ hi-flow cat, its basically the same thing, just a two piece version instead of the one piece. Pair this up with a shorty header and you might have yourself a decent exhaust set up.
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i don't like the poor material quality that he puts in his description, though. so i'd hesitate to get something mild steel like that. even something like OBX would be better.
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I used to have that downpipe, dont call BS until you try it... I am sick of people knocking something that they have no clue. That downpipe fits perfectly and it does replace that cat sicne the cat is after the header on the EX. It says it made of stainless steel 304 , which I see most exhausts these days are made of. Some of you need to learn to speak english. To all you you talking ****, zip it. As for the gains, i don't know how much HP it gave me but it helped a little, also it needs an 02 sim. I ended up getting rid of it to make a long story short. It made my car too loud and I didnt like all the fumes it put off. Laterz...
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ALSO, THE WELDING IS FULLY TIG-WELDING.

----> PLUS, THEY HAVE GONE OVER EVERY WELD AND RE WELDED IT TO BE SURE IT WILL NEVER, NEVER BREAK.<----

how do you re weld something without screwing up the origional weld??
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I bought one used awhile back but never installed it. Yes it is stainless. Yes the quality of construction is good. I doubt the gains they post, but WTF its E-ba.y If you believe half the **** thats said there, you would be a broke *****.
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