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so i can't replace that part without making sure it does not bind and the camshaft to turn.but it is possible? and how would i know maybe take the part of old on and new one take to a machine shop? thanks for help i would have just tried putting another one on.im no where near good enough to do this job just trying to make sure its done right.thanks again there is nothing there to screw in one side all the way broken off.

 
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so what is exactly the problem? Did they snap the head off the valve cover bolt? Or are the threads stripped out where the valve cover would screw back into the head?

If its the first, then hopefully there's a part of the bolt still sticking out. Get some vise grips and clamp it on there there tight, then loosen it by hand.

I can't really tell in the picture if it's stripped out or if there's something there.

 
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Not hijacking, but my '01 Ex has one with the threads stripped out of the head. Any suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.

 
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Heli-coil thread repair insert.

OP, I can't tell anything from your pic........
.if one of the cam journal caps is damaged you can't just get one off of a different cylinder head, because those are machined as part of the head so they correctly fit only the head they were machined with. If you grabbed one from another engine it may cause the camshaft to bind when you tighten the bolts.

 
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got you covered eric.


@CLudEx: like ezone said, helicoil it. I've had to do that on mine.
@OP, you're gonna have to replace that cam bearing cap.

 
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Thanks
Aw hell, I sure couldn't see THAT on my phone earlier.
Can't helicoil that one.

OP: Be careful if replacing, any unmatched cap may require some whittling to make it fit well enough that the cam can spin freely without binding.

 
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Thank you.

 
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Question...
Would the poor seal resulting from the stripped bolt hole release enough pressure to allow the VTEC to throw a P1258 code? Just a thought...
Besides for my '12 Pilot, this is My first VTEC.

 
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How about P1259 instead?

No, not unless it's caused a massive oil leak and it lost most of the oil.
You could leave the valve cover off and it would not cause that code....not until it lost a whole bunch of oil.

Low oil level is the most common cause of P1259. Extremely low oil level leads to low oil pressure.

That's not the only possible cause, but it's the most common.

 
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Yeah, fat fingers here...p1259 was meant.

 
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And thank you again, ezone.

 
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I just did an oil change yesterday with all the other work. Proper weight and levels. I reset the ecu/removed negative battery cable for a few minutes. We will see if it pops up again.

 
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hey thanks for the better photo yea it totally broken. i think they could have fixed very easy had they just backed the screw out that broke inside.looks like somebody tried drilling it out and then broke off.then tried sealing valve cover with jb weld or something. i just wanna fix it back to stock.dont wanna replace the entire head. just need to know if thats a separate piece. what should i be trying to hunt down. i called honda think comes with entire head for 1500.00 can't do that I'm stressing.

 
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Read my posts here, I explained why this is.

 
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so in order to fix back to stock i need to find a entire head from a junk yard or somewhere with the cam on it and replace the entire head? or replace an entire camshaft? I've never had to be mechanical why i bought a honda. i saw your ezone thanks for help i thought you said i could get that part but may have to have it machined in order to fit.

 
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To fix it the (technically) correct way it needs a head. Used, new, however you can get one that is in good shape.

Not the camshaft, although it would probably come with a used (junkyard take off) cylinder head if you went that route.

If you just bolt down another of the broken piece without checking first, you could damage the camshaft though.
It's not Hondas fault at all that someone broke it.
That's entirely the fault of someone who probably shouldn't be allowed to own a shoebox full of tools.
Machined?
To get it machined properly would involve removing the cylinder head from the engine, taking it to a machine shop.

I said 'whittle'...but that's still a lot of work to clearance a part like that by hand and that carries some risk at the same time........and if you pull one off an engine at a junkyard then you just made that cylinder head unusable and unsellable for the yard. No bueno.

Rebuilt cylinder heads can be purchased somewhat reasonably through various sources.

 
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Don't sweat it. Spend $5.00 and fix it. Put a long bolt up thru from the inside of the cover were the stud is broken off. Hit the top side with rtv, a washer and a nut. Now bolt the three other studs in. Attach a piece of bailing wire to the stud. Get another piece of bailing wire, attach it to the side of the motor and connect the two to a small turn buckle. Take all the play up and fasten wire and then use the turn buckle to pull down the cover. I have use small turn buckles to adjust alternator and AC compressors before I lock them down.

 
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thanks again ezone. I'm just trying to fix the proper most efficient way for the long haul. so the most practicle way of fixing to me is the take off the bad part guess that being the camshaft holder off,locate the same part and bring it to a machine shop so they have both to check the difference so it can spin. let me know if that seems like a good idea

 
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If you just need to stop (or at least slow down) the leak, RIPSAW had a good idea

 
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Could he use JB weld to "weld" a long bolt back into the head and then tighten it from the top as well using your method?

 
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I have really not figured the year of the car or actually what I am seeing from the sorry picture. I think that is the one cap that has the double ended stud screwed into. Not really sure. You are not going to be able to glue anything face to face and expect it to hold. Ezone is right about the caps for sure. First one I done, I had marked head in car but was not paying attention how it was on bench and started down the wrong end. Do not remember what cap I put on first but as soon as I started snugging, camshaft stopped spinning. When I finished, even with head off car, new cam spun easily in head. (cam had broken in two were small diameter was for large pulley and bent the valves..it was actually the factory's fault since they cut the undercut way too deep so the pulley would go square and it actually was very little wall too the tapped hole for the pulley bolt.

 
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hey sorry for quality off picture ripsaw . i can take whatever you need to look at. its a 1998 2 door coupe ex 1.6. thanks for your help

 
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If you have not solved your problem, a picture of the broken cap up close. Only a few like Ezone actually see all this with their eyes shut. I was thinking some of those large cap bolts are head bolts too. Know they are on a Toyota.

 
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hopefully this is better pictures

 
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Still looks ugly.
How about using soft lighting, some makeup, and a bit of airbrushing?





You should seen that one coming LOL
The cam caps and rocker shafts are held with those upper bolts. The head bolts are lower, you can see one next to the valve spring in a couple of the pics.

 
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Ouch.. the whole side broke out. That lower bolt is a head bolt.. I would leave that alone. That bolt to the left is the actuator lost motion plate bolt for the V tec. Use that. Thinking off top my head(on vacation for the winter) So verify dimension and clearance under cover with clay block. Get you a piece of flat bar apx 3/4 x 3/16 x 2" . Drill 1 hole for the actuator lost motion bolt. Measure over and drill one hole for a 1/4 all thread stud or a long threaded bolt or tap a 1/4 -20 hole . Bolt that down with the actuator lost motion bolt and use the all thread as your stud for the cover. Be sure to measure the lost motion bolt engagement you use for the plate clamp that it has at least still has a diameter engagement. If not, get a longer one. Will probably have to saw it off with hacksaw to get that of your plate extra length.