Cat conv.
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Re: Cat conv.
You got a code? What is it?
A fouler won't pass a visual exam when it comes time for emissions testing.
A fouler won't pass a visual exam when it comes time for emissions testing.
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Re: Cat conv.
It is considered "tampering".
The code I am getting is saying Cat is operating below efficiency.
Figure out WHY it is bad.
Fix that.
Then replace the cat. Use factory parts.
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Re: Cat conv.
Sure, try the no-fouler trick then.
The environment won't care that there is one more polluter running around.
If you do it, expect a drop in gas mileage too.
/hugs a tree
The environment won't care that there is one more polluter running around.
If you do it, expect a drop in gas mileage too.
/hugs a tree
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Re: Cat conv.
There are plenty of ways to do almost anything wrong. None are guaranteed to actually work as desired.
Like I said, it can and has been done. You can try it and see what happens. If it keeps the idiot light off, then it was dirt cheap.
But don't hold your breath, and don't whine if it doesn't work the way you wanted it to.
Re: Cat conv.
Hey if something isn't going to work I do not want to waste my time. Like I said I was looking for an acceptable way around this issue. If there is only one proper way then that is what I will have to go with.
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Re: Cat conv.
what would using the non fouler trick have anything to do with gas mileage? It would just read that the air going from the cat is cleaner than the air going into the cat. Its just tricking the ECU. I thought The 2nd o2 sensor has nothing to do with air/fuel mixture?
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Re: Cat conv.
On some of the cars, the rear sensor is also used for fuel control, more at certain times than others. So it CAN affect mileage. (I can't tell you which cars do, or just how much influence it has, but I know it is done.)
A huge part of PCM strategy is to keep emissions levels down and keep the cat alive.....think of the PCM as "life support" for the cat. The PCM may want to adjust fuel to keep the cat operating in its efficiency range too, and it may choose to use the rear sensor to do that.
Just sayin'.
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