Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
My brother gave me his old subs (two 10" 300W RMS 4 ohm subs - Kenwood KFC-W2511) and I bought an amp (Hifonics Gladiator GLX1000.1D 1000W mono). I need some help understanding what I'm doing with the wiring.
I wired the speakers in parallel so each sub goes directly to the amp according the diagram in the amp instructions. The instructions say this is for "2-OHMS SVC EACH MINIMUM, or 4-OHMS DVC EACH MINIMUM". I have no idea what that means. Is my current wiring ok? (It says 2 ohm minimum. Is 4 ohm higher or lower than 2? I know that sounds like a stupid question but if it's a measure of resistance, 4 ohms would be more resistance and thus is confusing me for some reason) I think SVC = single voice coil and DVC = dual voice coil so I think mine are single voice coil.
Would it be better to wire the speakers in series instead? I have no idea what that does to the ohms or wattage. I asked the jerk off at the store where I bought the radio if my 1000W amp @ 1 ohm was the same as 500W @ 2 ohms. He laughed and said "no - 750. you should just let us do the install". So now I'm determined to learn this on my own just so he doesn't get my money...
I wired the speakers in parallel so each sub goes directly to the amp according the diagram in the amp instructions. The instructions say this is for "2-OHMS SVC EACH MINIMUM, or 4-OHMS DVC EACH MINIMUM". I have no idea what that means. Is my current wiring ok? (It says 2 ohm minimum. Is 4 ohm higher or lower than 2? I know that sounds like a stupid question but if it's a measure of resistance, 4 ohms would be more resistance and thus is confusing me for some reason) I think SVC = single voice coil and DVC = dual voice coil so I think mine are single voice coil.
Would it be better to wire the speakers in series instead? I have no idea what that does to the ohms or wattage. I asked the jerk off at the store where I bought the radio if my 1000W amp @ 1 ohm was the same as 500W @ 2 ohms. He laughed and said "no - 750. you should just let us do the install". So now I'm determined to learn this on my own just so he doesn't get my money...
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
Don't pay them, it's not hard.
If you hook the speakers in parallel you will cut the resistance in half. If there is only 1 positive terminal and one negative terminal on the speaker then they are single coil. Yes 4 ohms is more resistance then 2 ohms. Since you bought a mono amp you only have one output. So you wan to wire the subs in parallel (+) to (+) and (-) to (-) then run those to the amp. Lowering your resistance increases your wattage and visa versa.
What is the RMS of your amp? You can overdrive a sub by a certain percentage (can't remember off the top of my head).
**read up on Ohms Law. It explains the relationship between, Volts, Amps, and Resistance. Watts is Power which is defined as P = Voltage x Current.
60W lightbulb, 120 Volt input, do some algebra Current = Power/Voltage so 60W lightbulb draws .5 Amps or 500 mA.
If you hook the speakers in parallel you will cut the resistance in half. If there is only 1 positive terminal and one negative terminal on the speaker then they are single coil. Yes 4 ohms is more resistance then 2 ohms. Since you bought a mono amp you only have one output. So you wan to wire the subs in parallel (+) to (+) and (-) to (-) then run those to the amp. Lowering your resistance increases your wattage and visa versa.
What is the RMS of your amp? You can overdrive a sub by a certain percentage (can't remember off the top of my head).
**read up on Ohms Law. It explains the relationship between, Volts, Amps, and Resistance. Watts is Power which is defined as P = Voltage x Current.
60W lightbulb, 120 Volt input, do some algebra Current = Power/Voltage so 60W lightbulb draws .5 Amps or 500 mA.
Last edited by GolNat; Dec 30, 2013 at 07:00 PM.
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
The amp is 1000W RMS.
So the amp actually has two (+) and two (-) so you can connect two subs. So right now each sub is connected to its own place on the amp. So that means they are each at 4 ohms right now and that's is ok if I understand you correctly.
Just curious - if I wire them in series, what would the ohm and wattage be for each speaker? I'm trying to learn how this works...
Thanks for your quick reply
So the amp actually has two (+) and two (-) so you can connect two subs. So right now each sub is connected to its own place on the amp. So that means they are each at 4 ohms right now and that's is ok if I understand you correctly.
Just curious - if I wire them in series, what would the ohm and wattage be for each speaker? I'm trying to learn how this works...
Thanks for your quick reply
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Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
You'll want to wire your speakers in parallel, resulting in a 2 ohm load on your amplifier.
Here is the correct diagram for your setup.
If it confuses you, it's very simple.
Wire a positive and negative from your amplifier, directly to your first sub.
Then, wire another positive and negative from your first sub to the second.
Here is the correct diagram for your setup.
If it confuses you, it's very simple.
Wire a positive and negative from your amplifier, directly to your first sub.
Then, wire another positive and negative from your first sub to the second.
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
Yes 4 ohms is good for your amp but what is the 1000W RMS rated at (4 ohm or 2)? If its 1000W at 4 ohms then you are under powering the subs by hooking them up separately.
Hooking them I'm series would result in an 8ohm impedance at 150W (not good for your amp).
Hooking them I'm series would result in an 8ohm impedance at 150W (not good for your amp).
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
Thx! This is exactly what I was looking for. My amp is 1000w ar 1 ohm. I wired them like the diagram above.
I understand the wiring, but I have to admit I don't get the ohm thing at all on that diagram. If each speaker is 4 ohm then why is it only 2 ohm load on the amp?
I understand the wiring, but I have to admit I don't get the ohm thing at all on that diagram. If each speaker is 4 ohm then why is it only 2 ohm load on the amp?
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
It's a 2 Ohm load because that is what happens to impedance when you hook two resistant loads together in parallel. If they were hooked in series you would add them together.
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Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
That's just how electricity works.
You're not going to get your 1 ohm load with those speakers.
The only way you'd have a 1ohm load is if you had a pair of 4ohm DVC subs or a single 2ohm DVC sub.
@2ohm, your amp will push 750W RMS, and since you have 2 subs, that will be 375W RMS each.
Your speakers are only rated up to 300W RMS, so you'll want to tone down your amp a bit.
You're not going to get your 1 ohm load with those speakers.
The only way you'd have a 1ohm load is if you had a pair of 4ohm DVC subs or a single 2ohm DVC sub.
@2ohm, your amp will push 750W RMS, and since you have 2 subs, that will be 375W RMS each.
Your speakers are only rated up to 300W RMS, so you'll want to tone down your amp a bit.
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
I finally realized why I have been so confused about this. I was confusing the terms series and parallel.
You have both been awesome. Thanks. I got it all wired up and working over the new year yesterday. I'll figure out how to turn things down a bit on the amp so I don't ruin my subs - thanks for the advice.
Happy New Year to you both!
You have both been awesome. Thanks. I got it all wired up and working over the new year yesterday. I'll figure out how to turn things down a bit on the amp so I don't ruin my subs - thanks for the advice.
Happy New Year to you both!
Re: Help with Amp/sub wiring (ohms, watts, etc)
Yes that would make things confusing. Glad you got it all figured out.
You should need to turn it down. You can overdrive a sub but I don't remember buy how much. I'll see if I can find it (I want to say it's 50%).
Happy New Year!
You should need to turn it down. You can overdrive a sub but I don't remember buy how much. I'll see if I can find it (I want to say it's 50%).
Happy New Year!
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