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I'm lookin' to get a new system. I'm getting rid of the weak 12 inch Boston G1 sub i've had for the past couple of years, and am looking for 2 12's. I've got my eyes set on JL w1's right now. I'm on a budget, so i'm not looking to spend over 250 for the subs themselves. From what i've seen and heard, these things kick for their size. Any input?

 
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Well if you are looking for something that just slams and sounds good, then i'd personally recommend an alpine type r. Aboslutely sick! My 1 alpine type r sounds as good and louder then my friends 2 w1s. And if you want 2 subs, the type r is only 120 a piece offer ebay new.

 
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I'm tempted, but I kinda wanna go back to 2 12's - though a 500 watt rms sub is tempting... Also, I'm going more for tight bass, and sound quality. Don't get me wrong, I want em' to hit hard! I just wanna still be able to enjoy my music without the bass takin' over.

 
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sorry if im jackin ur thread but i kinda have same problem but i have 2 sony xplod 12inch 1000watt each with a sony 2002gtr amp it was a package at circuit city i got didnt kno better so just went n got it...n idc wut ppl say bout sony...if done right like this package it can bump but i want something crazyy now cuz i have a friend with only ONE type r a 10inch n same sony amp just an older model but same watts n everything 1200watts n he bumps 3 times as loud as me...and right now i have the amp tuned down loww cuz was mad at everytime i turned off my radio it burped n whenever i go past 30 on my radio (out of 40) the subs choke..so i feel bad for the amp cuz subs are cheap so im thinkin what would b a good replacement? 2 12inch type r's? n just replace em in the box?? again sorry for stealin ur thread just askin for advice

 
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I've had Insignia (Best Buy's brand), Pioneer, and Boston subs. They all hit good and loud, but i'm gettin tired of just loud. I want my bass to sound good. Everyone i've talked to who's owned JL's say they've been very pleased with em'. A guy at a local audio store let me listen to some 12 inch W1's, pushin em' with about 200 watts a piece (rated 150 rms) which hit a lot harder than I expected. He also said JL underrates their subs, and you can juice em' with about 50 more watts than the listed RMS. I'm on a pretty tight "college student" budget, so unless someone really unconvinces me, i'm set on JL! (Feel free to unconvince me! )

 
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I think 2 type R's would do your system some justice! I've heard some sketchy stuff about sony tho... how do you like your amp?

 
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yea ill say that sony subs arnt really wut they say the amp itself is rated at 1200watts and the subs at 1000 each so thts 2000 and like i said b4 i have the amp tuned down the gain is very low and very little bass boost and anythig higher than 3/4 volume the subs start to choke...its horrible..i kno even ONE type r could probably handle everything from this amp wich i will say for the price sony amps are incredible first few months i never overheated or anything only time it would die on me would b because my connection got loose

one thing though when i had the amp tuned up high idk if its the ohms from the speakers or something but it would "BURP" whn i turned off my radio...any way to fix this? i heard tht some amps come with wat is called a delayed turn off wich the amp stays on for few seconds after radio is turned off to release w/e power was left in so it doesnt go to the subs n burp lol....i heard there was a way to put a resister or something in my amp to fix it..but idk..is it just the subs?

 
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ooo also i heard pioneer premier subs could DESTROY alpine type r's..is this tru?!?!?!!?

 
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get some kicker 12 comp subs i got em for about 350 at circuit city and they sound amazing

 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F199Z6JQUtc


this made me want a kicker soo baddd

 
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that was insane!!!!

 
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It just depends on what you buy. Pioneer and Alpine are both good products. Pioneer has a 12 inch premier sub rated at 1000 watts rms, and 3000 peak - obviously more kick than a type r. Personally tho, if I could get my hand on two type R's, i'd prolly go that route. I used to have 2 pioneer 10's that kicked pretty good tho... even tho the amp I had didn't do em' justice. So... I guess you could go either way.

 
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I don't know if my ride could withstand the abuse that an 18" solo baric would unleash upon it!

 
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yea idk i was thinkin more towards type R n at one point i was obsessing for a TYPE X but my amp would not power it well enoughso im guessin ill stick wit R but thing is i was thinkin having 2 in diff enclosures..one in a sealed..and one in a ported enclosure..so i can get benefits of both boxes..question is..would they interfere wit each other? or just blend? if not thn basically idc bout vocals i just want bass that sets off every alarm n wakes every neighbor on the block..idc bout clarity right now whn i invest more into a full overhaul ill fix er up right now i just wanna b loud n annoying..id get that slolbaric if i wouldnt kill my electricals

ooo on tht note..my sony system killed my battery...lol

but on tht note..is there any diff between altima yellow tops and duralast gold?....durlast seem to have few more amps but like altima's have that DEEP CYCLE system..n lady at autozone said they are made from a gel not liquid inside....anyone kno bout this? i wanna get one but idk wut to get...duralast is cheaper..but is it worth to pay for altima

 
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[/QUOTE]but on tht note..is there any diff between altima yellow tops and duralast gold?....durlast seem to have few more amps but like altima's have that DEEP CYCLE system..n lady at autozone said they are made from a gel not liquid inside....anyone kno bout this? i wanna get one but idk wut to get...duralast is cheaper..but is it worth to pay for altima[/QUOTE]

I'd just go with the cheaper battery and buy a capacitor if you don't have one. If you're lights are dimming, or you notice your battery and other parts of the car losing power, you def. need a capacitor.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Car-Audio-...-Them&id=74789

 
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sure it could! www.mycreativestyle.com the shop i work at is putting two of them bitches in an eg with a warhorse

 
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This is kinda off topic, but... has anyone personally used dynomat? I've heard the testimonials and stuff, but is it really worth shellin' out the money? And will it stop my trunk rattle if i'm bumpin' 2 12's?

 
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oo ok well ive hear capisitors can kill your charging system cuz alt basically working for 2 batteries but idk ill look into it

and as for the dynomat i guess it depends on if u locate the noise of the rattle n all tht..like for me if i did the trunk it would reduce a bunch of exterior vibrations but what i noticed is my rear decklid was going hella crazy so i just shoved some old rags between it and the window but trunk rattles still cuz cant afford dynamat but isnt there a thread on here on tht?



got it

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/2...owdown-v2.html

 
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You could always get 2 type rs and the 1000/1 alpine amp. Haha, that would sounds amazing and hit so damn hard.

 
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IMO definitely get a capacitor if you are going to push 2 12"s. My lights were dimming until I got one. As for putting extra stress on an alternator, I had mine for about 3 years and my alternator and battery are running fine.

 
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alright thnx wolfgang so ima thinkin ill prob do wut bjanzen said but i kno its .5 farads for every 1000 watts right? sorry if im mistaken but yea my question is..if i get a higher farad capicitor than i need at the moment would tht cause any problems? cuz i dont wanna get one now and then whn i upgrade again get a higher farad one can i just get a bigger one now?

 
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No it will not. I would probably get a 2 farad capacitor if you are running 2 type r's. I have a one farad for a 600 rms amp and it runs perfectly fine, no dimming. 2 farad should be able to hangle 1000 rms fairly well. You will want a better battery then stock if your running a 1000 rms. Also upgraded grounds, possibly a grounding kit.

 
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im more of a Pioneer sub guy and Kicker those are 2 great brands in my opinion my friend had 4 12inch kickers in his trunk 2L5s and 2L7s with a 4000 watt amp and a battery in the trunk if u wanna talk power u should off seen that thing it was so loud he cracked his rear window and shook his rear view mirror right off now thats power!

 
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lol shoulda gotten stronger glass lol

but yea i read online its .5 farafs per 500watts rms so im guessing idk ill get like a 2 farad capaitor just to have enough room for when i improve.

i deff wanna put in a grounding kit with 1/0 gauge wire asap and i need a battery only question is Duralast GOLD or optima yellow top? does the duralast have the deepcycle like the optima? or is there no diff? cuz duralast has more CCA but i dont want it to die out like my oem battery did

 
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get a bigger alternator amp king

 
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any recomendations? i hear steve meade uses irragi alternators CRAZY n his systems are insane..i was thinkin maybe one of those?? anyone kno any other good ones?

 
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I think Steve Meade's sound system is worth more than his car

 
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i have 2 jl w1's in my civic. The hit well, but they still make the car rattle a lot. I would recommend them for a civic

 
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o and i spent 400-500 on the two subs

 
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i have 3 10" subs in my trunk, two of which are alpine type-r's. the sound QUALITY blows pioneers out of the water, as well as kicker. those are both loudness subs. if your going for a tight bass, then id reccommend a single 10" in a small, sealed box.
fyi your also supposed to change your box any time you change your subs.
as for good sq subs, you should go with boston acoustics, alpine, or polk or jl
but if you cant power the subs right then dont get them at all.
your amp should supply at least 80% of the subs rated rms power