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Old Nov 28, 2006
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!!!Project Audio!!! HELP HELP

Do you know how when u get into a very xpensive cars and the audio system is nice clean and bassy W/O a subwoofer!

so im trying to achieve this in my coupe civic. so i did some research, and only component speakers can create this bass!

im lookin at the alpine type R components w/ the alpine 4 channels.

BUT im open for other suggestions

money is kinda of lmiited at the most 1000$
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so i did some research, and only component speakers can create this bass!
huh?
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why no subs?
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Originally Posted by christmaspie
huh?
becuase it can create this bass that i want with out distortion of the highs...normal speakers get all distor when the bass is high
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Originally Posted by dabflyboy
why no subs?
the main reason is the bass from the sub is too much for me. plus i dont listen to rap.
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Just get some subs if all you want is bass.
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If you don't get it solved from here, try calling Crutchfield. Those guys are really good and friendly. If you don't want to buy from them, you can just take their ideas or suggestions and buy somewhere else - http://www.crutchfield.com
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Just get components and amp it up, you'll get that clean sound with bass your looking for. Bostons or infinity are good speakers that will give you that bass your looking for.
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ooooooooook
so lets start from the beginning.

in order to have proper low frequency extension in our cars, without the use of a subwoofer, a few things are required:
1 - deaden the crap out of the doors
2 - a speaker with proper low frequency extension must be used
3 - proper power must be provided

First of all, knock on the doors of a civic, inside and out, then go knock on the doors of any european car. first thing you'll notice is that ours sounds like a metal trash can, while most european sedans will sound a lot more solid, a more thud-like sound. this is because these cars are deadened properly and the metal used is a lot thicker.
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these doors are usually sealed up pretty damn well, whereas ours have big gaps in them
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to remedy this, we have sound deadener. now you dont have to go buy dynamat extreme and waste your hard earned dollars, try www.raamaudio.com
they sell stuff just as good for a fraction of the cost.
one roll is PLENTY to do both doors and the rear deck.
this will create the proper enclosure for the speakers, and the proper solid mounting location

this alone will improve the midbass and bass output from any set of speakers.
type r's work pretty well for the price
there are a few others out there that would probably do you well also
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this alone will improve the midbass and bass output from any set of speakers.
This man knows what he's talking about. I'd look in this direction, turns out the installation is more important than the speakers you're running.
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hey, definitely i would go with components, i actually deadened my doors a lot and added som 6 1/2" mids (they needed MDF rings to clear the mounting depth in the door.) and some 1 inch tweets at the base of the A-pillar.. i bought some components from Elemental Designs.. they are a small company but they hand build all their speakers.. they have great prices, package deals, and they have cheap deadener too.. good luck.. let us know what the end product sounds like..
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Originally Posted by Forrest01EX
hey, definitely i would go with components, i actually deadened my doors a lot and added som 6 1/2" mids (they needed MDF rings to clear the mounting depth in the door.) and some 1 inch tweets at the base of the A-pillar.. i bought some components from Elemental Designs.. they are a small company but they hand build all their speakers.. they have great prices, package deals, and they have cheap deadener too.. good luck.. let us know what the end product sounds like..
HAH!
elemental knows NOTHING about hand building their own speakers
pretty good speakers for the price, but they dont touch them. cdt builds all their speakers, tangband builds their subs, and i cant rememeber who, but another company builds their amps
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Dynomat your entire car and your stock speakers will improve almost 100%, but most of those stock "bassy systems" are in nicer cars that already have sound deading material, and they usually have like 6 to 8 speaker systems, oh and i dont listen to much rap and i have a killer system ( thats why they make 8's)
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currently i have infinity kappa 3-ways speakers amped w/ 60rms going into each.

and i cant seem to tune the amp to produce the sound i want.

im gonna try a different amp w/ more power (lookin at the alpine 75rms/each)
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Originally Posted by hwt101
oh and i dont listen to much rap and i have a killer system ( thats why they make 8's)
This is what I was going to suggest would be the best route. You should have no problem getting sound deadener, an amp, and an 8-inch sub for under a grand that you would be happy with. Actually, for enough sound deadener for all the important areas of your car, an amp, an 8-inch sub, and for installation of the audio components (wiring, amp, sub) you should be able to stay around 500 bucks. Now you will need to get a box for the sub and as far as that goes the could range from $50-$500 bucks depending on what you want.

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Sound deadener definatly helps in the doors.

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That company that hand builds their amps would be Zapco. But on topic, from my experience I would say that for a good price the Polk MOMO series component speakers were a great set. They sound really crisp and have the bass that you are looking for if installed right.
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ok i just ordered 06 alpine 4 ch amp w/ 70rms....gonna use this to tune my kappas...hopefully this will come out better
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