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Check out this buy for the RAAM mat in the marketplace forums.

Click here for that thread.

 
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RAAM Mat from Rick McCallum.. Good guy.. great product.. I went with Brown Bread though from B-Quiet.. Came out cheaper with shipping and excise taxes and such... RAAM mat is Basically the same as Dynamat Extreme..but not quite.. dampens Almost as well (basically the differet is undetectable anyhow. COme sin VERY convenient 1" wode rolls (make sit easier to work with) Careful witht he Adhesive though.. once it touched something IT"S ON!!

Anyone who wants to deaden if you're in the US.. Get this stuff.. If you're in Canada.. get Brown Bread from B-Quiet.com the RAAM will seem chaper.. but paying GST and Excise tax makes it a bit more pricey.. Raam and Brown Bread perform the same.. BB comes in 36" long rolls and the adhesize is amazing and a little forgiving [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I would really like to see evidence that Dynamat Extreme provides any improvement whatsoever over RAAMmat. I've never worked with Brown Bread so I can't say anything about it but I have worked a great deal with Dynamat Extreme & RAAMmat. The difference in the two is that one has a nice fancy logo on the material and the other does not. It is amazing what those logos cost! RAAMmat is just one of several materials I am using for damping but I couldn't be more pleased with the results. Don't consider it just a cheap alternative to the "good stuff" because it is not. This is the good stuff!

 
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raam Mat is not Dynamat Extreme.. it's slight;y thinner.. easier to work with and offers only .38 deadenin factor whereas Dynamat extreme is .47 1.0 being completely dead... But at 1/5th the price.. it's WAY more than worth it..

RAAM is great Dynamat Extreme is a Great damper...not a Great Product [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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nevermind [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG]

 
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how much does it weigh compared to dynamat?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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RAAM Weighs 0.4lbs/sq.ft

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I didn't mean to insinuate that they were one in the same. Anyway, there are no published specs on RAAMmat for NSF or whatever they want to call it, it is something Dyanmic Control cooked up for marketing anyway. I'm going to stay above the BS on this one and let the satisfied customers speak for the product. You got any questions or concerns, go to the source and talk to Rick. Nuff said!

 
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SQcivic.. I've used a li'l RAAMmat.. it deadens pretty much as well as Brown Bread (couldn't tell any difference).. Easier to work with than Brown Bread, Cheaper for US resdents (shipping taxes and duties for us canadians make it more $$) Dynamat is a joke.. stuff works great but you have to sell your Kidney on the black market to deaden your car. What BS are you referring to?..

The Whole thread wasn't for or against anything.. Raam Mat is just as thick and weighs .003lbs more per sq/ft that Brown bread.. .006lbs less than Beaver tail/Dynamat extreme..The Aluminum backing has dimples in it which allow for more play than Brown Bread so less foil rippage on corners.. Actually with peoples permission I wanna wip out this thread so we can re-start it as a Sound Deadening commentary/review and sources to find Sound deadening to help everyone find what's best for them compare prices..quality and such.

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I was referring to marketing claims that don't amount to much of anything. The same type hype that comes up when discussing batteries, signal cables, speaker wire, the way amps sound, etc. All materials discussed in this thread are good products. I'm not for or against any of them. The thread started by simply pointing out a RAAMmat buy and you replied with your comparisons. I was just offering mine. We're cool!

 
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Ahh Good good

I've actually looked into alot of speaker wire claims and such.. Some cheap Speaker wire that claims to be OFC.. may be O2 free..but it's low grade copper with higher resistance and can affect things.. 90% of speaker wire made for car audio is all high grade 99.7% OFC copper... so the difference between say Lighting Audio Speaker wire and Kimber Cable is a whopping .000013ohms per foot of wire for the same guage.. which even most highly sensitive electronic equipment can't pic up any difference(which there is..but only in respect to an amps damping properties..which anything above a factor of 50 after wire resistances and such is 100% Unnoticable to the human ear and car audio RTA's and such can't even pic it up..it takes specialized testing equipemt to see differences which affect nothing....

Power wire is on the other hand.. just power wire.. The high strand count doesn't make it any better.. just easier to manipulate..


As far as RCA's go.. regular Shielded RCA's with 18guage wire(not 22 guage) will sound just as good as triple shielded silver Kimber Kable RCA's.. If you have regular shielded RCA's and still have noise.. it's not the RCA's it's your install..or a ground loop.... with 22guage wire RCA's and low voltage output HU's there can be a difference because of the resistance in the small wire..

The Way amps sound there are differences. Some amps like Zapco and Arc Audio offer less THD, Better damping, and better frequency response..But the differences can only be noticed if your entire system is all super high end.... Some amps like Pyle...or pyramid are exceptions and generally sound crappy because of the Distortion and noise they add because the transformers inside are not shileded and produce strong magnetic fields.... But even with a really good system..the difference between a Kenwood and a Brax amp are mere speculation at best...Only with balanced line outputs and amp inputs can any differences truly be noticed.. (even then human ears probably won't be able to tell anyhow)

How's all that sound SQcivic... [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. I'm Not starting anything.. Just you seem t know your stuff as well.. and after talking to many "experts" and Competiors and judges...and test data..I came up with the above statements.... Even alot of IASCA and USACi judges have brand name philters for their hearing.. Some Like Arc..so if you run ARC amps your system automativcally is worthy of more points than the fella running Brax amps because the judge thinks brax isn't worth the $$$...

Feedback Please [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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I agree with you completely on all counts including, regretably, the statement about some people hearing with their eyes and not their ears. But there are a lot of great judges out there so I just don't worry about it. I'm in this to have fun and to have a system that sounds killer to me! The competition part is just icy on the cake...road trips, bikini contests, cool cars, good people, great shows, it's a blast.

I'm all for saving money but I also like what I like. Not that I would but if I wanted to get extremely expensive RCA's or $3000 a foot speaker wire because I think they make my system sound better, then they are worth it to me. If I think this amp sounds better than that amp, then it does! Who is anyone else to tell you what you can and cannot hear? That's the key, build a system that works for you and does what you want it to do. Too many fellas build systems strictly for what they think the judges and everyone else wants to hear. Nothing wrong with that, but for me that takes the enjoyment out of it. My first priority is to have a system that I enjoy listening to, me. Like you said talking to the guys who have been in this for a while offers an incredible wealth of knowledge to pull from. Just don't take what they say as fact, form your own opinions and use your own ears.

Bottom line is have fun!

 
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Ahh the beach parties and bakini contests..it makes it all worth it lol..[IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/beer_yum.gif[/IMG]

 
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i tried emailing the guy days ago and have had no response.

 
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He is usually real good about replying to email D, he must be unavailable or having computer problems which has happened to him before. Give it a little longer, very cool guy.

 
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RAAM Mat even cheaper [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG] I Emailed Rick to see if this the is the same stuff..(just to be sure) But it looks Exactly like it.

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the dude that posted the pics said it is 'Resisto roofing membrane', so it would seem it isnt the same thing as RAAM Mat...right? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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Apparently Resisto Roofing Membrane is RAAM Mat.. RAAM Mat is another product old under the name RAAM... As it seems it's Resisto sold under a diff name.. neither are labelled in any way..

 
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really?? sweet! im gonna see if i can find any place that sells that stuff then [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG]

 
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I'm Not 100% sure on the stuff being the same..but it most certainly appears to be..I'm Still waiting for Confirmation back from Rick..

 
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I've got 4 rolls(200 sq ft) of RAAM Audio Mat sitting here next to me, I've had them for a month or two. I've have yet to have the time to get off work and finish my audio system(speakers, subs, amps, HU, enclosure & sound deadening). As soon as I get some time off work, I will be doing it all at once.

When I originally ordered my RAAM mat last year, I got a hook up from Rick cause I am a member @ Elite Car Audio. So I sent him funds for 3 rolls of the stuff. A month went by and I never received them, so I emailed him back, and it turns out his PC crashed and he lost all records of his recent orders. So, to compensate me for not shipping out what I paid for, he sent me 4 rolls for the price of 3! Great guy, and great product, I haven't used any of it on my vehicle yet, but I have heard it in use in other vehicles. Like Dynamat, only less expensive.

 
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Kind of off topic, and i dont wanna sound dumb, but how do you install this stuff. Clean the surface well, Should I use a hair dryer/heat gun to soften it up, because I wanna do my whole trunk, and eventually the doors when I change the speakers out. And than just peel and stick, and use the roller to get a good bond with the surface. I havent bought the stuff yet, but I probably will spring time when the weather warms up a little. Does this guy have a website with more info on Raam mat.

 
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Well Basically clean all metal panels with Aerosol Foam window cleaner.. (cuts grease, dries fast and elaves no streaks behind [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. hating it with a hair dryer will make it a bit easier to work with..you'll also need a rubber roller to get it to bond properly..email me at dmtp@lycos.com if you need any help...Also..how much of it you plan on buying?... 150sqft will do your WHOLE car..even a hoodliner and roofliner [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].50Sq.ft will kill 80% of your road noise by deadening the hood, firewall and front doors..100Sq.ft will do your hood, doors, hoodliner trunk and floor.

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Mohawk