I just want to replace factory speakers!
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I just want to replace factory speakers!
I don't want to add sub, panels, baffling, bend/twist torsion bars or anything other than take out the old speakers and replace them with new ones. No amp or HU - the operative words are hassle free with an upgrade in sound. I'm not looking for the best sound but just something better.
I've got the 6 speaker EX system but I can't find anything on the Cruthfield site that talks about the pillar tweeters or the perfect fit door speakers. The rears are covered on their site but I'm looking for some answers.
Is there a replacement package from one the manufacturers of some othere site that's got some better answers.
I'm also looking for input from anyone who's made the same mods.
I've got the 6 speaker EX system but I can't find anything on the Cruthfield site that talks about the pillar tweeters or the perfect fit door speakers. The rears are covered on their site but I'm looking for some answers.
Is there a replacement package from one the manufacturers of some othere site that's got some better answers.
I'm also looking for input from anyone who's made the same mods.
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Rep Power: 0 I hear ya brother. I can't stand hearing people tell me i have to upgrade my head unit and all that good stuff. I do understand that it would further improve quality, but that's not what I want to do.
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Rep Power: 263 To upgrade with the same speaker system you have now, you will need 6 1/2 component speakers. This is two 6.5 mid range speakers, two 1" tweeters, and two crossovers. Infinity reference 6001, Pioneer, MB Quart Referance, Polk Audio, Alpine are all quality names and their entry level speakers should suit to stock stereo. I have Diamond Audio components in mine and I love them.
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The reason people are telling you that is because, you probably will have a hard time finding speakers that don't sound worse than stock if you just swap out the speakers. Stock speakers are designed specifically for the car and the rest of the system. They play some of the lower frequencies that subs normally would in an a/m system. If you replace just your speakers, you'll end up with a lack of midbass unless you discover some components with unusually good midbass response when powered by 14 watts.
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Originally Posted by CplJon
To upgrade with the same speaker system you have now, you will need 6 1/2 component speakers. This is two 6.5 mid range speakers, two 1" tweeters, and two crossovers. Infinity reference 6001, Pioneer, MB Quart Referance, Polk Audio, Alpine are all quality names and their entry level speakers should suit to stock stereo. I have Diamond Audio components in mine and I love them.
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mmmmmm 14 watts---must--not-choke---on-----tongue
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Originally Posted by blackavian
I hear ya brother. I can't stand hearing people tell me i have to upgrade my head unit and all that good stuff. I do understand that it would further improve quality, but that's not what I want to do.
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I see no reason to replace the stock speakers as your first move, I know you may not wan't to replace the stock HU, but its the law of crap in crap out....and....the sytem is only as good as the weekest link.
I can tell you that a good after market HU will make the stock speakers sound better than aftermarket speakers run from the stock HU
I run all 6 stock speakers right now off my alpine HU with such a vast improvement in sound quality over stock it's amazing they are the same speakers.
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Rep Power: 0 Yes, I fully realize that what I'm doing is similar to playing teeter-tooter with only one person - me!
The point is that not every upgrade has to be full blown or even mildly warmed over and I dont' recall seeing anything that says amps are a necessary mod or that stock replacements is a waste of time.
Years ago Crutchfield pushed, as an option, speaker replacement as a viable mod. I doubt that somehow has become untrue although I'm sure their marketing people say otherwise.
I just want to take the Colonel's recipe and add my own pinch of herbs and spice.
Or as Paula Abdul would say, "Flashlightboy, you took the factory system and made it all your own."
The point is that not every upgrade has to be full blown or even mildly warmed over and I dont' recall seeing anything that says amps are a necessary mod or that stock replacements is a waste of time.
Years ago Crutchfield pushed, as an option, speaker replacement as a viable mod. I doubt that somehow has become untrue although I'm sure their marketing people say otherwise.
I just want to take the Colonel's recipe and add my own pinch of herbs and spice.
Or as Paula Abdul would say, "Flashlightboy, you took the factory system and made it all your own."
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I'm not opposed to replacing the HU but I'm not willing to compromise the aesthetics of the factory install. It fits and it looks like it fits as though it belongs.
Once you start adding a new HU with adapters and trim plates it looks like a tumor is growing in the dash and I'm not interested in breaking up the dash lines for a better HU if this is the result.
Kids playing under a blanket is the usual result unless there is an HU that fits flush. I'm open to suggestions if something like this exists.
I'm not opposed to replacing the HU but I'm not willing to compromise the aesthetics of the factory install. It fits and it looks like it fits as though it belongs.
Once you start adding a new HU with adapters and trim plates it looks like a tumor is growing in the dash and I'm not interested in breaking up the dash lines for a better HU if this is the result.
Kids playing under a blanket is the usual result unless there is an HU that fits flush. I'm open to suggestions if something like this exists.
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Originally Posted by Flashlightboy
Or as Paula Abdul would say, "Flashlightboy, you took the factory system and made it all your own."
lmao, and I dont even watch that show.... I'll find you the right HU for the job.....
ok so....the buttons can be a bunch of colors, but you can make um red or blue to match the OEM cluster color, and the deck is a nice brushed black, looks very stock and when you get it intstalled.....
Get a Schoshe adaptor and ask then to make sure they installed it nice and flush....you will be happy it wont look out of place at all
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Rep Power: 0 sounds crazy, but I hooked up a four channel amp through our factory deck using a line out converter w/ speaker wires and converts to RCA outputs. I kept the factory speakers, and they handle it fine. The amp will cost you around the same as new speakers, and it'll sound way better.
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ok so....the buttons can be a bunch of colors, but you can make um red or blue to match the OEM cluster color, and the deck is a nice brushed black, looks very stock and when you get it intstalled.....
Get a Schoshe adaptor and ask then to make sure they installed it nice and flush....you will be happy it wont look out of place at all
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It really doesnt matter what HU u have so that it sits flush, its the mounting kit. Go the Best Buy and get the honda kit. I used to work there and I bought it and installed my Alpine in there and its looks awesome. The "toomer install kits" are the cheap multi kits that u get from Wal-Mart. I also have Diamond Audio 6.5" components,Diamond Audio 6x9s, RF 4004 (70rms x 4), RF 801s (300rms x 2), 2 12" HE2s, 3 Caps, Yellow Top, Serius Radio, and lots of Dynamat. I used to intall all of this as well as sell it so ask me if u have any further Q's.
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Hurts2bStock, you are a god amoung men (or women). That Schoshe adaptor you mentioned look great. I thought because of the stupid slant in the dash nothing would fit and look good.
Of course I haven't looked hard, so maybeee you're not so great.
Of course I haven't looked hard, so maybeee you're not so great.
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Rep Power: 329 OPTIONAL: Aftermarket deck that appears to be stock? Nakamichi is your answer, hands down. As for it sitting flush, that's handled in the install. ISO mount it a little deeper in the bracket than normal and it'll sit flush with the front of the dash. Get the metra kit that allows you to replace top portion and keep the stock pocket, as it matches the color better than any other kit out there and lets you keep the doored pocjket (that'll keep it as close to stock as you'll get)
As for replacing the speakers, I'm not a proponent of running speakers off of any headunit, stock or aftermarket, as the wattage produced will be an astounding, mind numbing 12 RMS watts... wow, massive power huh? But, if you insist, I'd recomment some entry level components from companies such as MB Quart, Infinity (even though their tweets are a bit on the harsh side), Rainbow, Focal, etc... A more viable solution, however, would be to go with a low wattage coaxial, or triaxial. This will also help with imaging (assuming that the tweets can be angled) as the tweet is within 18 inches or so of the mid (as it's mounted on it). The thing is, however, you're not going to get even 1/2 of the potential of them without amplifying them. And yes, you can add an amp without replacing the HU by way of a line out/hi-level convertor. There's not going to be a reasonable audible difference in running off the stock HU or an aftermarket one, which really doesn't justify the cost associated with it for what you want.
Were it me, I'd go with the line-out convertor, a 2 channel amp, components up front (OPTIONAL: and adding a 7-12 band EQ, as it'll allow you to have the same tunability as an aftermarket deck, but keeps the integrity of the dash by allowing you to hide the EQ somewhere such as a glove box) and keeping the stock rears. If you're insistant on replacing the rears, you don't have to necessarily go with 6X9's as 6.5's work, among other things. That would give you more options for the rear deck. If you do decide to replace them, you'd need a 4 channel amp as opposed to the two channel.
The previous recommendation I gave you was mainly for cost effective measures, and was sponsored by ExLax, Royal Purple, and the Jesse Jackson Kids Coalition...
As for replacing the speakers, I'm not a proponent of running speakers off of any headunit, stock or aftermarket, as the wattage produced will be an astounding, mind numbing 12 RMS watts... wow, massive power huh? But, if you insist, I'd recomment some entry level components from companies such as MB Quart, Infinity (even though their tweets are a bit on the harsh side), Rainbow, Focal, etc... A more viable solution, however, would be to go with a low wattage coaxial, or triaxial. This will also help with imaging (assuming that the tweets can be angled) as the tweet is within 18 inches or so of the mid (as it's mounted on it). The thing is, however, you're not going to get even 1/2 of the potential of them without amplifying them. And yes, you can add an amp without replacing the HU by way of a line out/hi-level convertor. There's not going to be a reasonable audible difference in running off the stock HU or an aftermarket one, which really doesn't justify the cost associated with it for what you want.
Were it me, I'd go with the line-out convertor, a 2 channel amp, components up front (OPTIONAL: and adding a 7-12 band EQ, as it'll allow you to have the same tunability as an aftermarket deck, but keeps the integrity of the dash by allowing you to hide the EQ somewhere such as a glove box) and keeping the stock rears. If you're insistant on replacing the rears, you don't have to necessarily go with 6X9's as 6.5's work, among other things. That would give you more options for the rear deck. If you do decide to replace them, you'd need a 4 channel amp as opposed to the two channel.
The previous recommendation I gave you was mainly for cost effective measures, and was sponsored by ExLax, Royal Purple, and the Jesse Jackson Kids Coalition...
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Originally Posted by Flashlightboy
Yes, I fully realize that what I'm doing is similar to playing teeter-tooter with only one person - me!
The point is that not every upgrade has to be full blown or even mildly warmed over and I dont' recall seeing anything that says amps are a necessary mod or that stock replacements is a waste of time.
Years ago Crutchfield pushed, as an option, speaker replacement as a viable mod. I doubt that somehow has become untrue although I'm sure their marketing people say otherwise.
I just want to take the Colonel's recipe and add my own pinch of herbs and spice.
Or as Paula Abdul would say, "Flashlightboy, you took the factory system and made it all your own."
The point is that not every upgrade has to be full blown or even mildly warmed over and I dont' recall seeing anything that says amps are a necessary mod or that stock replacements is a waste of time.
Years ago Crutchfield pushed, as an option, speaker replacement as a viable mod. I doubt that somehow has become untrue although I'm sure their marketing people say otherwise.
I just want to take the Colonel's recipe and add my own pinch of herbs and spice.
Or as Paula Abdul would say, "Flashlightboy, you took the factory system and made it all your own."
I fully understand your not wanting to change the Head unit because of aesthetics. But why change the speakers if it is going to sound worse than it does now? Unless you have something against midbass. You see, this isn't a case of people trying to push the envelope like a body builder saying, "what's the point in lifting weights, if you aren't gonna be 250lbs?" This would be like lifting weights to get smaller.
EDIT* Thanks for beatin' me to the punch Pop, I just had to erase the Nak part of my post. Damn you
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Rep Power: 341 In have the Special edition radio MP3 player 6 disc and there is no way in hell that im changing it..
Ill get a rca inverter with a 4 channel amp and thats it loll
Ill get a rca inverter with a 4 channel amp and thats it loll
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Rep Power: 263 After market HU's have internal amplifiers, not necessarily high wattage amps but a little none the less. Like it was said earlier, you have about 14 watts with the factory. An aftermarket speaker will probably not have a nominal power rating of 14 watts. If you put in speakers that have--say--50 watts nominal, the factory HU will be underpowering the speakers, thus making it sound like poop.
