I.C.E. (Audio) & Electrical Upgrades Post all your I.C.E. (In Car Entertainment) and wiring questions here (Audio, video etc.)

Knukonceptz

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #1  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Knukonceptz

I know alot of people here use their product because it's inexpensive and good quality. But what did you actually buy from them and is it worth it?

Power
I bought a spool of Streetwires 4 gauge from ebay because it was half the price per foot of knu's wire. And I talked to a couple people here and said tinned wire is mostly for looks and barely helps send more power.

RCA
I'm planning to get RCAs from Knukonceptz. I was thinking the 4 channel karma twist cable for my front and subwoofer. That's only $20 for RCAs. Or maybe I should buy the Knu's top of the line RCA "Krystal" for $20 each x 2 = $40 for RCA. It's not too bad of a price for the best, not like Monster or Stinger HPM RCA prices. Which set did you guys buy, or did you guys go with something else?

Speaker Wire
This would probably be one of the more expensive accessories I'm buying from Knu. The question is do you think it's worth to buy twisted wire? Damn, 80 cents a foot and I would probably need between 30-40 feet to rewire my fronts and sub box. That's $30 for speaker wire. I was considering the the cheaper klarity cable, or maybe even untwisted audiopipe or esoteric cable from ebay. It just doesn't feel right to spend more money on speaker wire than my power wire per foot, but I guess I should consider signal cables as being more technical anyhow. I find that you can also get Stinger's HPM twisted wire for the same price on ebay.

Battery and ring Terminals
Well, I decided to buy two battery terminals from Knu because they look so good...haha. I'm lame. But do you think it would be okay to stick raw wire into the battery terminal and screw it down, or should I use a ring terminal. I was planning to buy mabe a couple of set screw terminals from Knu to use in the engine bay. But if I don't have to, it would save me a couple bucks. I'm still wondering how to hook up the car's power wires to the Knu's battery terminal. I will probably have to figure it out later when I actually take it apart.

Fuses
I've heard the ANL fuses from Knu are flimsy. I would prefer the cheaper AGU fuses anyhow, but you would have no choice if you have more current draw in your system to go ANL. I decided to buy a circuit breaker, either audiopipe, tsunami, or maybe phoenix gold. Which brand would be decided by if you guys think it is okay to stick raw wire into a set screw like contraption under the hood. Phoenix and audiopipe would require the purchase of ring or set screw terminals to connect the power wire.

I will probably buy the primary remote start wire from Knu. But what else do I need. Maybe female disconnects? I didn't install my components, so I don't know what the crossover hookups look like. I thought you would stick raw wire into the designated area on the crossover, but seeing other accessories on Knu for speaker wire makes me think otherwise.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #2  
PopcornPlaya's Avatar
Electric Boogaloo...
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,457
Likes: 1
From: Want to play a game?
Rep Power: 328
PopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to behold
Wire is wire... The RCA's is the only real thing I'd worry about. With the rest of them, make sure they are shielded well, and you're fine.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #3  
MegaHurtz's Avatar
Banned
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 51,077
Likes: 4
From: B.C., Canada
Rep Power: 786
MegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud ofMegaHurtz has much to be proud of
RCA's can get fookin expensive... I use Stinger Expert Series becuase I got a smokin deal on em
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #4  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by PopcornPlaya
Wire is wire... The RCA's is the only real thing I'd worry about. With the rest of them, make sure they are shielded well, and you're fine.
So what speaker wire do you use and RCA?

I was just thinking since speaker wire also transmits the signal, does it need to be all high tech too? Or is plain straight copper wire fine? I was thinking top of the line RCA cables for $40 is a good investment. I can just reuse those cables in my next car if I wanted too. Or will the Karma cables do fine?

Description: The Krystal Kable is the Fort Knox of cables. These cables feature 4 different types of sheild / noise rejection all in one cable!. Features Include:
Twisted Pair Balanced Audio Signal
Copper Foil Sheild wrapped Audio Cable
Second Inner Layer PVC Jacket
Mylar Foil Sheild
Tinned Copper Braid Covering 98% of the surface area
High Quality Metal Ends with Diagonal Kut Konnection
This cable is 6 Meters Long (19.5')



Karma Kable 4 Channel RCA Kable 6M
( Knukonceptz Item #KAR4-6M )

Description: Twisted Blue/Silver Karma RCA's make a perfect match with our Karma Speaker wire. Features include twisted audio signal, split center pin for tighter connection and gold plated metal ends. Channels are color coded in: Blue, Red, Black, and White.


Category: RCA Interconnects
In Stock: YES
Price: $19.99

Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #5  
brash's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
brash is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by DuYaKnow
I was just thinking since speaker wire also transmits the signal, does it need to be all high tech too?
No. And if you want to see why I hate Monster, go look at one of their ads for speaker wire...

Unless you need super-flexible speaker wire for some reason, you should be fine with their cheapest stuff.

As PopcornPlaya said, the only thing to worry about is RCAs.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #6  
PopcornPlaya's Avatar
Electric Boogaloo...
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,457
Likes: 1
From: Want to play a game?
Rep Power: 328
PopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to behold
RCA's are Lightning audio TPX1000 (free)

Power wire is Lightning Audio 1/0 to a distro block 4 ga from the distro to amp (free)
Ground (same as power)

Speaker wire is Lightning Audio 10 ga (free)

Remote wire is a 10 ga Lightning wire (free)

I run all of it cause as you can see, they were all free. I eventually plan on switching to all JL wiring, mainly cause I run their amps, and I will get their wire free too, so why not right? (I had originally planned to do all JL amps and subs, but I love the IDMAXes too much.)
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #7  
PopcornPlaya's Avatar
Electric Boogaloo...
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,457
Likes: 1
From: Want to play a game?
Rep Power: 328
PopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to beholdPopcornPlaya is a splendid one to behold
Again, the only thing I'd concern myself with is the RCA's. Since I get my wiring free, I take what I get. The Lightnings are pretty much their best wire that I've seen. If I were splurging on wiring, I'd spend 75% of my budget on the RCA's.
Reply
Old Nov 2, 2004
  #8  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by PopcornPlaya
RCA's are Lightning audio TPX1000 (free)

Power wire is Lightning Audio 1/0 to a distro block 4 ga from the distro to amp (free)
Ground (same as power)

Speaker wire is Lightning Audio 10 ga (free)

Remote wire is a 10 ga Lightning wire (free)

I run all of it cause as you can see, they were all free. I eventually plan on switching to all JL wiring, mainly cause I run their amps, and I will get their wire free too, so why not right? (I had originally planned to do all JL amps and subs, but I love the IDMAXes too much.)
I'm planning to get an IDMax too. I hear so much praise about it, but worry about the misalign voice coil deal. Does it happen often? If an IDmax has problems, that's what I hear is usually the case. If you get so much stuff for free, you mind selling me some high end wire for cheap? haha. I'm j/k, I don't want to bother you. I guess I'll buy the Knukonceptz best RCA.

So one last time, is it okay to buy just normal straight speaker wire? I don't need twisted wire right?
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004
  #9  
brash's Avatar
Registered!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 215
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
brash is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by DuYaKnow
So one last time, is it okay to buy just normal straight speaker wire?
Yes.

Originally Posted by DuYaKnow
I don't need twisted wire right?
Right.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004
  #10  
LudlamTheory's Avatar
i boogie for the raindrops
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,497
Likes: 1
From: Jackson, Mississippi
Rep Power: 0
LudlamTheory is an unknown quantity at this point
i have all knu wires (minus speaker wire, i got some other brand for cheaper)
the krystal rca's are just really solidly built, as solid as many 100 dollar rca's ive seen.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004
  #11  
Civic_Racer9's Avatar
(SnOwBoArDeR | FoReVeR)
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 2,846
Likes: 0
From: Mission Viejo
Rep Power: 303
Civic_Racer9 has a spectacular aura aboutCivic_Racer9 has a spectacular aura aboutCivic_Racer9 has a spectacular aura about
i bought all installation stuff from knuconceptz....good quality stuff! everything is well protected and huge! yes i would recommand them to anyone!!

shipping is excellent!
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004
  #12  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by LudlamTheory
i have all knu wires (minus speaker wire, i got some other brand for cheaper)
the krystal rca's are just really solidly built, as solid as many 100 dollar rca's ive seen.
I'm curious what brand of speaker wire did you get? I've read so much stuff from you, and whiterabbit that I try to use you guys as role models...haha. I never knew what Adire or Image Dynamics was till you guys hyped me up about it.

So can I assume your running the Krystal RCA? I think I read somewhere that someone was going to make their own with cat5 cable and phoenix gold connectors...hehe.
Reply
Old Nov 3, 2004
  #13  
LudlamTheory's Avatar
i boogie for the raindrops
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 4,497
Likes: 1
From: Jackson, Mississippi
Rep Power: 0
LudlamTheory is an unknown quantity at this point
well, i was gonna make my own rca's, but i got lazy... heh

speaker wire, for me, i used some random 12 gauge ( 3 different types) before, but i just bought a spool of some fancy twisted red crap strictly for aesthetic purposes.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004
  #14  
dtexan's Avatar
Registered!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 90
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
dtexan is an unknown quantity at this point
I have the Krystal Konnectz and love them . I had a little noise with my previous rockford twisted cables when I went to the Knu's everything sounded better. I highly recommend there RCA's
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004
  #15  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Thanks for the recommendation. Everyone here thinks highly of them too, but my system isn't very high end. So I think I'm just going to buy the 4 channel karma cable. If I do get noise, I'll try the krystals. I won't be in any sq contest, and my ears probably don't have the capabilities of the mods...hehe.
Reply
Old Nov 7, 2004
  #16  
duyaknow's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 1,237
Likes: 0
From: Anaheim Hills, California
Rep Power: 0
duyaknow is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by LudlamTheory
well, i was gonna make my own rca's, but i got lazy... heh

speaker wire, for me, i used some random 12 gauge ( 3 different types) before, but i just bought a spool of some fancy twisted red crap strictly for aesthetic purposes.
So were you the one who was going to use the cat5 cables to make the rca. I thought that was crazy talk, and saw on ebay that tsunami is selling the stuff...hehe.

Here's the specs and link.

RTP8.94-17

RCA Cable (Male to Male)
4 CHANNEL
17 feet

-SUPER-FLEX JACKETS FOR EASE OF INSTALLATION

-COMPACT RCA BARREL DESIGN WITH COLOR CODED INDENTIFICATION BAND

-24K GOLD-PLATED RINGS FOR CLEANEST CONNECTION

-24K GOLD-PLATED SPLIT TIPS

-CAT-5 TWISTED PAIR TECHNOLOGY

-AUTHORIZED TSUNAMI INTERNET DEALER

-ONE YEAR WARRANTY!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...729179264&rd=1
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
kaivorth
I.C.E. (Audio) & Electrical Upgrades
13
Sep 2, 2013 07:54 PM
Derek-CEO
Archive - Parts for Sale
0
Jul 2, 2006 03:28 PM
synod
I.C.E. (Audio) & Electrical Upgrades
3
Dec 11, 2005 08:49 AM
duyaknow
Archive - Parts for Sale
16
May 2, 2005 05:54 PM
XTREME2K2CIVIC
I.C.E. (Audio) & Electrical Upgrades
6
Jan 24, 2003 03:01 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 AM.