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Old Sep 9, 2004
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What determines whether or not a burnt cd plays?

So I just made some .wav files and burned them onto a cd. I took the cd out to my car to test out my new speaker, but my stock cd player spat it back out and wouldn't play it. Now, I've burned cd's before and played them in my car stereo with no problem. So I brought this CD back inside and tried it on my regular stereo and it played just fine. Then I got really pissed off cuz I assumed it wasn't the cd. So wtf? My car stereo plays burned cds just fine (as long as they're .wavs and not .mp3s). Wtf?
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Quality can matter, or even the color of the disc bottom. It all depends. I had some cheapo generic ones that played fine in the stock deck. Also depends on the deck sometimes. Stock can be picky with cds.
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I just realized they're 80 minute cd's. I heard some car decks have problems playing 80 minute cds.
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Dammit I just went to Wal-Mart and Target and they only had 80 minute cds
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ya 80 min is basically the standard. good luck trying to find lower.
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Can anyone here play 80 minute cd's on their stock deck? I bought two different brands of 80 minute cds tonight and I'm burning them now at different speeds (48x and 4x) to see if any of them work.
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Actually, look what I just found on another forum:

You're right about 650Mb discs working properly and also correct about 700Mb discs exhibiting problems - it's not the brand of media - it's the the 700Mb spec ... read my longer post in this thread:
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread...&threadid=62750

Stick to your 650s - and build a stockpile if they are getting harder to find (definitely my experience - and I'm not talking the overpriced 74min "CD-For-Audio" discs, rather, just good 74min CD-Rs!)

It is actually a belief of mine that CD-R74s have been intentionally made scarce (or too expensive), as 80min CD-Rs are not audio spec and many people do experience your exact problem - problems finding TOC, skipping, difficulty finding the tracks on scan etc etc - and thus when these problems show-up burn after burn after burn, people may get discouraged from copying audio CDs "cos it never works", and maybe go out and buy them, so the CD does work glitch-free ... just a theory, but I feel there's something to it ...

But what is fact is that 74min discs are audio spec and 80min discs are not - as you will have read I co-own a professional recording studio - part of my job is to hand the client a master disc that the client will not bring back and say "this doesn't play properly!" I would never hand them a CD of their work, whatever level of their accomplishment, even burnt at 1x, on an 80min disc. Not a chance. And yes, I keep a stockpile of 74s!
Uh-oh.
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You guys with aftermarket decks, do they play 80 minute CD-Rs?
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All I use is 80 minute discs, in fact I've never heard of anybody not using them.

I didn't have my stock deck for long, but I think it played everything I put in there, and my JVC plays everything except for the ones that are no good, period.
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The 80 minute cds at one time violated the iso writing standard. I never thought they would actually mass produce them. It's technically a "wrong" cd. Don't know how else to say it. I've burned some crap PNY 80 min cds and they played fine inthe stock deck. My aftermarket one also plays them just fine.
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I have no problem with 80 minute CDs. Maybe it was jsut a freak burning error. Try burn it again, maybe at lower speeds. Just to make sure, you're burning them as Audio Cds, right? Not like, as the actual wav file?
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Originally Posted by Ed
I have no problem with 80 minute CDs. Maybe it was jsut a freak burning error. Try burn it again, maybe at lower speeds.
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I bought two different brands of 80 minute cds tonight and I'm burning them now at different speeds (48x and 4x) to see if any of them work.
Just to make sure, you're burning them as Audio Cds, right? Not like, as the actual wav file?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. I convert them into .wav files and then burn them. When I put the cd back in my CD-ROM it reads them as .cda files. The cd plays on other home stereos so I assume I'm not burning it improperly. I'm using Drag 'N Drop cd burning software, and I'm dropping them in the "Music" box and not the "Data" box. But the fact that other stereos will play them leads me to believe that I'm burning it the right way.

So far I've used 80 minute cd's from Memorex, Sony, Napster, and some no name brand, and none of them will play in my stock deck, but they play in my home stereo.

I have old 74 minute Sony and Imation cds that I burned and they play fine in my car. Now, those were burned on my old HP computer with different software, but that shouldn't matter, right?

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Originally Posted by IronFist
Can anyone here play 80 minute cd's on their stock deck? I bought two different brands of 80 minute cds tonight and I'm burning them now at different speeds (48x and 4x) to see if any of them work.
Mine plasys them, but lately i've been having issues like you playing burned cd's in the car. It will sit there and read for ever or it plays, but when you change the track it will read for ever and then "error" me. always
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