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i'm looking for a pair of 6.5" componets....there's soo many brands out there... i don't know where to start.... i wanna spend about 400CAN.... which is around 280US....

can u guys give me some ideas?... thx..

i can get a pair of AVI EL series for around that price.....

any other speakers u guys got in mind??

 
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whichever ones you like best. go to a shop and start listening

 
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You should be able to get some Boston Acoustics Rally series components in that price range. I have them and love them.

 
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get earthquake. =D

 
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mb quartz

 
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MB Quart, Focal, Boston Acoustics, and Alpine X Series can all be had online for that price range. Go to a shop and listen to different speakers and decide what you like that way.

 
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eclipse

 
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argh.... sooo many choices.... it takes soo much time to go around listenin to the speakers.... but i guess its gotta be done.... argh.

 
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yeah, i want to get some good (read: above-average quality) speakers. however, i want to try to avoid paying retail. i've contemplated getting some focal 165k components off ebay, but i would be hella pissed if i got a pair of paper weights with no warranty. and to get them at an authorized dealer in town it will run me $600. see my dilema?

 
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i just found a reseller for AVIs..... gonna get it at a pretty good price.... 350CAN or less for EL series.....

 
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eclipse or jl

 
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focal, image dynamics, mb quart..........remember, ur speakers will only sound as good as ur amp. If u have great speakers with a crappy amp, u will get crappy sound. Also a higher voltage source unit will make ur amp run cooler and give u cleaner sound.

 
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bullsh*t

 
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u don't believe me ? It's amazing how ppl go out and spended a whole bunch of money on subs and go buy cheap amps and wonder why they blow subs. The amps are the most important part in your system. If you have an amp with little distortion and runs cool and provides clean power, than your audio will sound better. It's just like putting gas in your car. Your car will run a hell of alot better if u put 93 octane in it than if u run 87. And remember, there is no such thing as overpowering a sub if u are using a good amp that produces good, clean power. People blow subs cuz they crank the gain all the way up and use crappy amps. If your source unit has a higher voltage then your audion system will sound better and cleaner with less distortion. When your pre-amps have more voltage, your amps and run with the gain down lower, therefore your amps will run cooler and provided less distortion. Think about it, why does cheap HU come with 2 volt pre-amps and eclipse comes with 8 volt pre-amps. And what is the price difference b/n them ? Like i said, u get what u pay for.

 
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if what you say is true, then a man named richard clark will give you 10 grand (or is it 15 grand?)
cant remember right now.

lets start here:
people blow subs from distortion because they are clipping the signal. a clipped signal occurs from setting the gain too high.
The amplifiers are not the most important part of the system. Are you aware that the human ear cannot hear distortion in bass frequencies until it has reached 8-10%? the amplifier merely amplifies the signal that comes from the headunit into the speakers. If the headunit is producing distortion, then even the most expensive zapco or mcintosh or brax (all hand built and all worth many many many thousands of dollars) will still put out a crappy signal. then if the speaker is in an improperly tuned enclosure, or if the speaker itself does not have the capability of producing those frequencies, no matter how clean of a signal you send it, it just wont go past its own limits.

the heat dissipation has nothing to do with signal cleanliness. The heat dissipation is merely a description of how efficient the amp is. The cleanest home theater amps, class A amps, (not a/b, like car audio amps) are extremely inefficient, and they run hot as hell. some cars run better on 93 octance, if theyre tested for it. Our civics were tested to run at 85 octane. 87 is available everywhere as regular, and we use it. using 93 is merely a waste of money because you will NEVEr notice it. you might notice a single horsepower on a dyno, but can you feel or even see a single horsepower? no. like i said earlier. human ears may be sensitive, but not sensitive enough to notice tiny things (i dont care how good you say your ears are, that argument is coming later)

yes, some overhead is acceptable. i personally have overpowered many of my speakers with gains set way below normal, but, there IS a point where enough is enough. too much power sometimes can be too much power. also, as i said earlier, distortion doesnt blow speakersthrough amps, clipping does. any distortion you are receiving at the end is most likely because your headunit is distorting.

if your rca's are run correctly, your ground done right, and all that other stuff done fine, then voltage doesnt come to be a big deal. Higher voltage is used in cars to overcome the high noise floor that our low volt dc electrical system induces naturally into electrical components. you want to dispute that then you can talk to whiterabbit. He competes in SQ with a 5 year old pioneer deck with a single 2 volt output. Another thing i want you to clear up again. How is it that heat will induce distortion in electrical components? If its snowing outside and i get in my car and play my stereo, will it sound better than if its 105 and sunny outside? a gain **** merely adjusts the amp to your input voltage coming form the source unit. lets say your amp's gain can run between .2 and 8 volts. with the headunit giving .2 volts , the gain **** on max, the amp will give out x watts of power, and y joules of heat, with z% of distortion. with the gain **** on minimum, the unit providing 8 volts, it will give the same amount of distortion, power, and heat.

yet you have competitors running both types.


my final comment is this. yes a higher end amp will sound better not because of heat, distortion, voltage, etc. people usually hear better sound from a higher end amp because of onboard processing. crossovers on the amp can do wonders about your quality. built in equalization. sensitivities on gain. all these things are the things you hear improving when you hear an amp sound better.

I would bet you money that if we took 2 amps which we personally bench tested to equal power, and which were of the same class (D, A/B, etc). set them both on full range so as to bypass anything onboard, and run them off an offboard crossover, such as an audiocontrol or a phoenix gold, you wouldnt hear a difference.

 
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id reccommend infinity perfects if you liek lots of midrange and a tweeter that will scream to high heaven

jl XR for that smooth response and a laid back tweeter that is crisp but never harsh

earthquake if ou want to save some money with that same great infinity tweeter response in a set thats nearly unblowable.

the koda midwoofers are also an excelent choice if you are no stranger to fabrication, plenty of midbass in a speaker designed to work well in a door, however to fit in budget you will have to do some tweeter research and get some budget crossovers.

eclipse pointsource and linesource should both fit in that pricerange, very similar to infinity, yet far more laid back, no "in your face" sound

or if you want to get in your face sound, you can go for the digital designs midwoofer for ultimate midrange, again you will need to do some tweeter and crossover reseach to fit in budget.

orion makes a killer SQ set, the oldskool hcca compoinent set, a rare find especially in that pricerange, but the ultimate in tunability as far as incredible sq goes with great volume potential. also lets you save money on an amplifier as its a 2 ohm set. extreemely accurate.

those are a list of my personal favorites in that budget.

 
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nice... thx man.... that helped a lot.