Ok, so i have the RS projectors that most people on this board actually dont like....but i dont care, i like them. Anyways, that doesnt really have anything to do with my question. My question is, I want to get HID's on my car, but i have both read, and heard that the H3 HID bulb suck ***. They dont last long at all because what people do is they cut down an H1 bulb to fit in the H3 space provided, then the gas leaks out, and they burn out. Ok, with that said, i dont want to go with H3 HID's. In the projectors that i have the low beams are H3's, so now i was worried...what am i gonna do? Well i took an H1 HID bulb (yes the actual bulb used for HID's cause they are longer), held it up to a pen, and made a mark on the pen as to how long it was, then i took it over to my housing, and stuck it in where the low beam bulb goes to see how much room i have to play with here. It turns out i have about 3/4 of an inch past where the end of the H1 HID bulb would go in the room provided. So, i talked to my performance shop and said that they can make it fit with little modification, but my question is...do you guys think that it would be ok?
Any help would be appreciated, but please dont tell me just to go get new projectors cause mine suck, i like them, and get complements on them all the time, and if need be, i will just stay with my PIAA's.
Sorry about the long post.
Cheers
Any help would be appreciated, but please dont tell me just to go get new projectors cause mine suck, i like them, and get complements on them all the time, and if need be, i will just stay with my PIAA's.
Sorry about the long post.
Cheers
if you stick any bulb in there that is not an H3 bulb you will get similar if not even worst results. first, your H3 projector housings is designed for use with a certain type of bulb to produce a certain type of beam pattern. second, you must match the location of the H3 filament inside the projector to get the correct beam pattern so that the photometric isn't modified. third, even if you match the position of the filament, you will still get a crappy output since the H3 bulb has a lateral filament while other type bulbs have vertical filaments, which brings you back to my first point.
I have the same headlights. People tend to not like them because of the silly chrome plating over the sockets (I even think they somewhat resemble Ford Focus headlights myself). But hey, they suit me and were a lot cheaper than going with TYC's or anything else at the time, which was when I wasnt sure how far I was going to go with my car. If I woulds have known, I would have saved up another 150 bucks and went with some better ones, but hey, its what you like.
As for the bulb conversion, Im not so sure about that. Your headlights are meant for H3's, meaning if you throw something else in them, they are not going to put out the same output as they would with the H3's. its just common sense. Your probably going to get way better performance with H3's. I just threw in some PIAA Super White Platinums a couple days ago and love them. All bright white, no blue. As for how long they are going to last, lets wait and see. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
As for the bulb conversion, Im not so sure about that. Your headlights are meant for H3's, meaning if you throw something else in them, they are not going to put out the same output as they would with the H3's. its just common sense. Your probably going to get way better performance with H3's. I just threw in some PIAA Super White Platinums a couple days ago and love them. All bright white, no blue. As for how long they are going to last, lets wait and see. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
Do you already have a kit with ballasts and igniters for HID bulbs? You'll need that in any case.
The CATZ guy at liteswap.com recommends going with the H3 conversion for projectors, not the H1.
The CATZ bulbs are factory made with the correct bases for fit and alignment and shoud not be any problems with short life. These are not some cut and "modified" setups like some of the cheap kits.
HID at Liteswap.com
The CATZ guy at liteswap.com recommends going with the H3 conversion for projectors, not the H1.
The CATZ bulbs are factory made with the correct bases for fit and alignment and shoud not be any problems with short life. These are not some cut and "modified" setups like some of the cheap kits.
HID at Liteswap.com
Thanks for the responces guys...i just have a couple things to say
1) About the placement of the filiment....well first, and HID doesnt use a filiment, but there is a little ball in the middle of the bulbs full of gas, that is charged with positive, and negative charges to produce the light. The difference between an H1, and H3 are simply the length of the bulb, thats it. What most companies do is they take an H1 bulb, and cut it down to where it would be the length of the H3 bulb, but that normally cuts way too close to the gas bubble in the bulb, and causes the life of the bulb to go dramatically down. I have a guy that deal just with lights at the performance shop that i goto, and hes seen it tons of times. So actually when you hold an H3 and H1 HID bulb right up next to eachother, the gas bubble that produces all the light is right next to eachother. So then it was just a question of length of the H1 bulb, which would actually work.
2) About the beam pattern. H3 bulbs are meant to be foglights, which mean that the beam pattern would be really bad for low beam uses. Ive read that in many places before. And about the actual beam pattern, i dont mind the beam pattern that i have now on my projectors, and that wont change very much, or at all with HID's, its just gonna be way more light. I know it doesnt have the pattern of a BMW, but i dont care, it puts light on the road, and thats what its made to do...its not like its gonna shoot light all over the place like with a stock housing.
Thats all i had to say
Cheers
1) About the placement of the filiment....well first, and HID doesnt use a filiment, but there is a little ball in the middle of the bulbs full of gas, that is charged with positive, and negative charges to produce the light. The difference between an H1, and H3 are simply the length of the bulb, thats it. What most companies do is they take an H1 bulb, and cut it down to where it would be the length of the H3 bulb, but that normally cuts way too close to the gas bubble in the bulb, and causes the life of the bulb to go dramatically down. I have a guy that deal just with lights at the performance shop that i goto, and hes seen it tons of times. So actually when you hold an H3 and H1 HID bulb right up next to eachother, the gas bubble that produces all the light is right next to eachother. So then it was just a question of length of the H1 bulb, which would actually work.
2) About the beam pattern. H3 bulbs are meant to be foglights, which mean that the beam pattern would be really bad for low beam uses. Ive read that in many places before. And about the actual beam pattern, i dont mind the beam pattern that i have now on my projectors, and that wont change very much, or at all with HID's, its just gonna be way more light. I know it doesnt have the pattern of a BMW, but i dont care, it puts light on the road, and thats what its made to do...its not like its gonna shoot light all over the place like with a stock housing.
Thats all i had to say
Cheers
We have two different H3 bulb applications, both of which should fit your application.
Cutting a HID bulb is bad news. Check out our site, our H3 bulbs are not as long as you might think.
Cutting a HID bulb is bad news. Check out our site, our H3 bulbs are not as long as you might think.
