breather filters?
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breather filters?
ive seen people put breather filters on the valve cover opening. ( the one where u connect the breather hose from the intake to the engine) what does this little air filter do? it looks pimp so im considering buying one and using it since it only costs like 10 bucks. i wanna know y its used and what do u cover the hole up wiht that was supposed to be connected to the breather hose if i install one of these breather filters on my engine?
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I dont think they do anything. just for looks IMO.
the thing the breather is going over is the PCV positive crank ventilation... which basically spits out wasted dirty oil.
its suppose to go back into the intake assembly and through the intake manifold back into the engine...
you wont pass the visual inspection of the smog test if you have a breather there...
now some hardcore people use it and route it to another point... or get a catch can cuz they dont want their throttle body to be dirty...
but most people use it for looks I think, and have no idea what they're for.
slapping on a breather might have some oil splashing out around the breather area.
the thing the breather is going over is the PCV positive crank ventilation... which basically spits out wasted dirty oil.
its suppose to go back into the intake assembly and through the intake manifold back into the engine...
you wont pass the visual inspection of the smog test if you have a breather there...
now some hardcore people use it and route it to another point... or get a catch can cuz they dont want their throttle body to be dirty...
but most people use it for looks I think, and have no idea what they're for.
slapping on a breather might have some oil splashing out around the breather area.
1st off i have a breather on my car casue i cut the rubber hose to short for the intake.(doh :_doh[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
2dn.i never had any oil drip out of it or any of that stuff.
3rd. i had it on during a inspection and they said notthing about it.
passed with flying colors.
at least up here in PA i had no trouble with it.
i dont know if its diffrent anywere else...
am going to take it off when i get my new intake cause the one i have on it now SUCKS a$$...
then am putting the hose back on it cause i think think the breather looks odd on the engine of the d17's
2dn.i never had any oil drip out of it or any of that stuff.
3rd. i had it on during a inspection and they said notthing about it.
passed with flying colors.
at least up here in PA i had no trouble with it.
i dont know if its diffrent anywere else...
am going to take it off when i get my new intake cause the one i have on it now SUCKS a$$...
then am putting the hose back on it cause i think think the breather looks odd on the engine of the d17's
I know a site that sells, them but I'm sure you can find them bunch of places:
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http;//www.motionmania.net/ <--- I talked to them the other day and they told me the are still adding products daily, but give them a call and they will get us prices on whatever we want.
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What about people with turbo's? Any special reason to do that when you have a turbo? I noticed that a couple people did this. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Wait, isn't there an actual valve that allows crank-case ventilation. PCV valve? Then it doesn't allow positive pressure from inside the intake to into the crank-case. Is that right? If so, then where is this valve lovated? Under the valve cover somewhere? Anyone know what the pressure rating of this valve is? I need to know how much boost I can run before that valve fails and sticks open or closed. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
Edit: Sweet, I think I know now. There is not PCV valve in our cars. Check this out for some tips when running a turbo: PCV Catch Cans (and other nonsense)
Edit: Sweet, I think I know now. There is not PCV valve in our cars. Check this out for some tips when running a turbo: PCV Catch Cans (and other nonsense)
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[hr]A functional PCV system is even more critical to turbocharged engines. Turbocharged engines generate crankcase pressures far above those experienced by a stock motor. Add to this the less than ideal Saturn PCV system and you have a problem. Simply attaching a filter to the PCV valve will not cut it. The factory PCV system simply isn't up to the task, and unable to keep up, excessive crankcase pressure will result, causing poor piston sealing, blowby, intake charge contamination (which in turn introduces detonation), and ultimately ring damage. And because the Saturn PCV system relies on a vacuum source to operate, it will not function when the engine is under boost. This is because like the whole intake system on a turbocharged engine, it is pressurized when under boost. And since the PCV system is sourced by a vacuum source on the intake manifold....Well, you get the picture. But this is precisely when a PCV system is needed the most. One must find a means to evacuate excess crankcase pressure, which builds exponentially under boost and heavy load. This is where a air pump comes in. By using an airpump you introduce a vacuum to the crankcase. This will evacuate the crankcase gases at a much faster rate and help the piston rings to do their job. With very little crankcase pressure to fight, engine builders car run looser tolerances. With looser tolerances comes less friction and reduced parasitic drag. In addition, this may allow the use of single compression ring piston designs, which is another topic altogether. It is not uncommon for high compression and turbocharged engines to gain as much as 40 wheel horsepower with the addition of an airpump.[hr]
[hr]A functional PCV system is even more critical to turbocharged engines. Turbocharged engines generate crankcase pressures far above those experienced by a stock motor. Add to this the less than ideal Saturn PCV system and you have a problem. Simply attaching a filter to the PCV valve will not cut it. The factory PCV system simply isn't up to the task, and unable to keep up, excessive crankcase pressure will result, causing poor piston sealing, blowby, intake charge contamination (which in turn introduces detonation), and ultimately ring damage. And because the Saturn PCV system relies on a vacuum source to operate, it will not function when the engine is under boost. This is because like the whole intake system on a turbocharged engine, it is pressurized when under boost. And since the PCV system is sourced by a vacuum source on the intake manifold....Well, you get the picture. But this is precisely when a PCV system is needed the most. One must find a means to evacuate excess crankcase pressure, which builds exponentially under boost and heavy load. This is where a air pump comes in. By using an airpump you introduce a vacuum to the crankcase. This will evacuate the crankcase gases at a much faster rate and help the piston rings to do their job. With very little crankcase pressure to fight, engine builders car run looser tolerances. With looser tolerances comes less friction and reduced parasitic drag. In addition, this may allow the use of single compression ring piston designs, which is another topic altogether. It is not uncommon for high compression and turbocharged engines to gain as much as 40 wheel horsepower with the addition of an airpump.[hr]
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