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Old Dec 12, 2002
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Headers from APC, Neuspeed, Powertech (D A D)

I not really considering getting one of these, but does anyone have one of these headers, I was just curious if they were any good. BTW I know everyone is going to say get HP, Kamikaze, or DC.
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i would get the neuspeed ones, but i dont think they are out yet. last i check they werent. but ya, i am waiting to get them, regardless if they produce gains or not.
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In order from best to worst

1. Kamikaze
2. HP
3. DC
4. Neuspeed

THere now that that is said

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I went to that band of ballers website. You guys are funny. [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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[hr]Originally posted by: FlyRiceRacer02
In order from best to worst

1. Kamikaze
2. HP
3. DC
4. Neuspeed

THere now that that is said

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is that based on hp gains or construction? i never hear anything about kamikaze headers, are they really that great? if so, are they available for the 5-speed ex, and where?
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Kamakaze seems to have the best power, but I don't know if they have a street legal one.

If you put one on an EX and leave on the cat, it should be ok though.
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Kamikaze Header for EX 5 speed is here.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! That CRAPc sig is beautiful! [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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See, it says so right here:

"Kamikaze Nickel Polish Chrome Coating headers offer the most power from any header available. Wiht their unique designs, Kamikaze headers makes 4-5 more horsepower than DC Sports headers. Kamikaze headers are very known to work good with Super Charger system "
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See, it says so right here:

"Kamikaze Nickel Polish Chrome Coating headers offer the most power from any header available. Wiht their unique designs, Kamikaze headers makes 4-5 more horsepower than DC Sports headers. Kamikaze headers are very known to work good with Super Charger system "[hr]
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Anyhow, who says kamikaze is the best? Most people seem to think hp is the best. Does anyone have any graphs to show which one actually produces more power. EVen if the kam was the best, it's only best for the lx..

Everyone said the dc was crap and didn't produce any gains. I said so myself. It is ever so slightly bigger than the oe header. However, there was a definate increase in power over stock. There isn't anyway to deny it. This is my second honda with the bolt-ons so I know all about them and what they do. The dc definately adds a few hp. I will say I only have one because I got one hay of deal on it used.

If I was going to pick one to go with it would be the hp with high-flow cat. The tubing diameter is huge (much bigger than stock and dc) and it gets rid of the cat.

Yea, it's going to hurt low-end but when was the last time you raced someone and ran the engine under 4k rpm...
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my brother gained 3 tenths and 2 mph trap speed with the HP header and no cat

mods are:
AEM CAI
UR pullies
2.25 exhuast
TCS header

old best was 16.2 at 84
new best 15.9 at 86

the car still has more in it considering he gets 2.4 60fts. 2.2's would get hims 15.7's
car is a 2001 LX

edit sorry bout that I got the header mixed up. Its the TCS header from the civicstore.com and no cat
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thats pretty good for a LX...

and... for that "ranking" best to worse from FlyRiceRacer02... what do you base that on?

You dont have any of those header on your car, what do you base that on?

especially when one particular header isn't even out yet.
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i would get the neuspeed ones, but i dont think they are out yet. last i check they werent. but ya, i am waiting to get them, regardless if they produce gains or not.[hr]
someone's a neuspeed fan! lol.

IMO, all these setups wont yield much... but *shrug* my ebay header gave me gains. I was surprised. It wasn't in the head too... course butt dyno isn't accurate, but the RPM climbed faster. thats the only way I could tell.

its not on right now though, I got a bolt stuck in there.. lol. too lazy to drill it out and rethread it.. maybe I'll bring it to a shop.
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i would get the neuspeed ones, but i dont think they are out yet. last i check they werent. but ya, i am waiting to get them, regardless if they produce gains or not.[hr]
someone's a neuspeed fan! lol.

IMO, all these setups wont yield much... but *shrug* my ebay header gave me gains. I was surprised. It wasn't in the head too... course butt dyno isn't accurate, but the RPM climbed faster. thats the only way I could tell.

its not on right now though, I got a bolt stuck in there.. lol. too lazy to drill it out and rethread it.. maybe I'll bring it to a shop.[hr]
$@#%%&*&%@#@#$!@#$% Holy ish man! YOu still haven't taken care of that bolt..LOL

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can anyone translate this one (strainght from kamikazeperformance.com)?

"Also you have the choice of downpipe to fit stock location. Or our full out 2 1/2” outlet downpipe, specialized for supercharged vehicles."

does one of these NOT eliminate the cat?
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These are the three header made for our EX models for those of you who doubted it.

What is the Black Coating one? is it better?

HCH15008-BC Kamikaze High Temp. Black Coating, 4-1 Header (01-03 Honda Civic EX)

HCH15008-NP Kamikaze Nickel Polish Chrome, 4-1 Header (01-03 Honda Civic EX)

HCH15008-C Kamikaze High Luster Ceramic Coating, 4-1 Header (01-03 Honda Civic EX)

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It's either Kamikaze or HP. The cat converter replacement is what helps you gain more power. Simple as that.
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[hr]Originally posted by: 4bangin
i would get the neuspeed ones, but i dont think they are out yet. last i check they werent. but ya, i am waiting to get them, regardless if they produce gains or not.[hr]
someone's a neuspeed fan! lol.

IMO, all these setups wont yield much... but *shrug* my ebay header gave me gains. I was surprised. It wasn't in the head too... course butt dyno isn't accurate, but the RPM climbed faster. thats the only way I could tell.

its not on right now though, I got a bolt stuck in there.. lol. too lazy to drill it out and rethread it.. maybe I'll bring it to a shop.[hr]
$@#%%&*&%@#@#$!@#$% Holy ish man! YOu still haven't taken care of that bolt..LOL[hr]
lol yeah. I put it on my last priority list... I think I'll sell the header anyway.

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the kamikaze is just the top part like the dc or is it like the hp one? i have the dc one for a ex and would like it to be bigger. i like the hp setup but don't want to go into the trouble of installing it. if the kamikaze has the down pipe with it and you don't need to cut the motor mount for installation i would go with the kamikaze one. and what is the difference with the black coated one to the rest?
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What about the OBX?
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i got a DC header and its ok. dont really feel it till i get on higher rev's .. and thats running the stock downpipe im pretty sure if i get a bigger down pipe it would be better but im too lazy to go get it
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I'm getting the Kamikaze just because I need the polished look in my engine bay, seriously!

So, I have a DC Sport stainless steel header for sale if anyone is interested. dmullen@mbhs.org

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