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Old Jan 18, 2005
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Remote Start Question

I am thinking about getting a Viper 791XV Remote Start Car Alarm and just want to see if anyone had any bad experience with it or anything? Also how much you think bestbuy would charge to install it?
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I have that system and havent had a problem with it at all! Great system! I bought and had mine installed at Tweeter here in Texas for 500! I would recommend having it professionally installed cuz if you just throw it in there, anyone can come along and disable it! When they installed mine, they put the "brains" of the alarm behind the dash! It would take much longer than a theif is willing to spend to disable that alarm because it would take too long to take the dash apart! Im in the process of adding glass break and tilt sensors to it! Remote start is great for cold weather and even hot weather! Much better for your engine as well especially in the winter! Would definately recommend it to anyone!
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I myself do not have the alarm, but my cousin does and he loves it. Besides, it's a DEI product, you can't go wrong.
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thieves just cut the damn wires instead of trying to disable the brain ... at least that's what I think =/
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wat sensors does this alarm come with, i just heard about this alarm and am really contemplaing on wether to get it or not. and i heard that the range on this is 1/4 mile for the pager, is this true? have anyone of you guys tested that out?
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I recently installed the alarm.

1. Alarms are only as good as the install.
2. The only real sensor the alarm comes with is a shock sensor. However, there are other things that trigger the alarm such as , Hood pin switch; Trunkl Doors; Ignition.
3. The Range is DAMN good as long as the antenna is mounted right. (top center of windshield. Do not coil the atenna wire, lay out and use as much of it as possible).
4. The install is actually pretty easy, ALl the wires are right under the dash except the tach wire.
5. You will need an immobolizer bypass module.

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Old Jan 20, 2005
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alarms are usually better than the install, therefore...by stating that the alarm is only as good as the install is limiting the alarms' true potential. Just don't label your **** and you have a great install on your hands.
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can i get a remote start like that for my 5 speed?
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Originally Posted by chocobo15_2000
thieves just cut the damn wires instead of trying to disable the brain ... at least that's what I think =/
An alarm is only to protect your car from little things... Like kids breaking your window to steal something cool they see inside. Not to prevent a professional car theif from stealing your car.

Although my alarm... even if the siren is cut it will still make my remote beep.. I have gps.
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Originally Posted by MIVtec
can i get a remote start like that for my 5 speed?
You won't pass inspection with a remote start on a 5-speed
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Originally Posted by AzNmiKex215
I recently installed the alarm.

1. Alarms are only as good as the install.
2. The only real sensor the alarm comes with is a shock sensor. However, there are other things that trigger the alarm such as , Hood pin switch; Trunkl Doors; Ignition.
3. The Range is DAMN good as long as the antenna is mounted right. (top center of windshield. Do not coil the atenna wire, lay out and use as much of it as possible).
4. The install is actually pretty easy, ALl the wires are right under the dash except the tach wire.
5. You will need an immobolizer bypass module.

check out www.the12volt.com for my posts. There are plenty of helpful Install post for our specific car!
wat do you mean immobilzer bypass module? is it the thing for the ignition key or something? sorry noob
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inspection, im from Michigan inspection never happens! is there a remote start for a 5 spd Civic?
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Originally Posted by GreatWhite02
When they installed mine, they put the "brains" of the alarm behind the dash! It would take much longer than a theif is willing to spend to disable that alarm because it would take too long to take the dash apart!

hahhahahahahahahahah

what thief would try to steal just an alarm??? if someone really wanted to steal your car they wouldnt bother with that. i installed mine and im willing to bet any money that if you give less than a minute i can disable it.

bestbuy charges 140 i know cause i work there. i would not recommend you to them either. in order to save time i tried to send one of my customers to them and they tried to charge 200 to install a HU that took me 10 minutes to do. there work is also very shady... this goes for bestbuy, circuit city, and anywhere that is non-commission.

if you are wondering why i am talking down on the place i work at is because i sell computers not car audio. i cant stand it when they overcharge to do shitty work.. thats just my opinion.

oh yea and to get back on topic.. i have that same alarm it is probably one of the best ive had. so far i have remote start, trunk release, proximity sensors, and window roll down module. if you decide to install yourself i will give you the full rundown. dont make the mistake of paying too much
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a bypass module is basically a little box that you either program with the keys code or have an actual key inside of it.

We all know that all new hondas have immobolizer security system. that means that the fuel system etc wont engage when the car is cranked unless the VIN derived keycode is sent ot the ECU. With remote start you dont have the key physically in the car when the alarm tries to start the motor. The bypass fools the immobolizer by sending the key code so the engine will start.

YOU WILL PASS EMISSIONS WITH A REMOTE START ON A MANUAL CAR.
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i has these "pager" alarms on my integra,well i went into the movies and came out and my **** was gone,did i get a page?no?did i waste 470 bucks on an alarm that didnt do ****?yes,mabey i was my shitty luck with cars,but be aware you are spending alot of money why not get lojack at least that works
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i have lojack as well but lojack doesnt deter thieves from getting whats inside your car... lojack is only there to help you find your car once its stolen. when you go to the movies, the building might keep the signal from reaching to your remote hence the no page. its happen to me before but its probably going to be the best remote you can get right now. the pager is also good in instances where you walk away from your car and wonder if you have locked your car or not. since theres a picture you can see that you have or have not locked it.
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i installed my own remote starter in my truck, it was worth it. here is a link to a diy on remote starter installation. if you go to google and do a search on 'electronic remote car start' you will find many links to diy, etc. here is one of the diy i found, it seems pretty good.

http://www.diynet.com/diy/shows_wkm/..._32894,00.html
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like they said earlier, an alarm is only as good as its installed! cought up 100 bucks or so and get the alarm professionally installed! it can make all the difference in the world. its pointless to get a nice alarm and do a sh**ty install! most legit shops wont install remote start on a 5 speed! If you get all of the sensors and get it professionally installed it should last as long as your car! not to mention insurance is less with an alarm!
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Originally Posted by Blahman2
You won't pass inspection with a remote start on a 5-speed

depends on where you live.. they are fine here.. only thing i dont like about them is that you have to do all these steps before turnning off the car (set ebrake, neutral, tap brakes twice, dance the chachacha..) and if you for some reason have to go out to yer car for something.. you have to do it all over again or it wont work..

i love my remote start.. but i hate pushing the button.. mine is real picky and wants to be pushed the EXACT right way or it wont start the car... i got mine done at honda for $280.. just remote start and keyless.. no alarm..
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Originally Posted by AzNDrivn
I am thinking about getting a Viper 791XV Remote Start Car Alarm and just want to see if anyone had any bad experience with it or anything? Also how much you think bestbuy would charge to install it?
I got the clifford matrix with remote start for 400. you gotta get an additional part which bypasses the clutch like Mike mentioned. 400 was total price including installation. I could do it on my own, but I didnt.

If you get a remote start on manual, be careful because it will **** your car up if you leave the car in gear. Mines is 5spd but I havent had any problems yet because I never remote started the engine on car. You need an extra key in the alarm so it can start. The key must be the original key that came with your car.

If you planning on getting one real soon, try to get dual shock sensors.
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where can you get the bypass module and all the othersensors and modules for this alarm? cuz besides the shock sensor that it comes with, i want the glass breaking sensor, the trunk release sensor, and wat about that dual shock sensor that you mentioned above?

wats good about that one?
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well just got it today, and i got it for a steal!!! well lets just say i didnt have to pay $400+ for it

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrow...der_id=1191547
now time to install and get thoe other stuff so i can use the remote start(install will happen this sat, and ill post a little reveiw on it sometime maybe)
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DEI, Alarms are all that is reallly out there. They bought every one else that was worth a crap. I am an ex installer, and installing a remote car start can be tricky if you are not familiar with wiring, and most importantly relays. As for Circuit City and Best Buy they are not bad options, I believe that it is a local problem with a stores install, not a general problem. If you decided to tackle it you self, just remember that an alarms will only stop a hack, it will never stop a pro. If I ever decided to switch to the dark side, nothing could stop me. A alarm, no matter how good it is installed will only give the thief a place to jump wires from more easier..... If you are worried about theft, a back up battery is your best choice....
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i paid 200 on ebay for my VIper XV791
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i have had mine for quite a while and i love it i definatley would get the professional install though
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Originally Posted by MIVtec
inspection, im from Michigan inspection never happens! is there a remote start for a 5 spd Civic?
I have installed for ten years and in those years I have seen two done and both were ran into walls!
I worked for radios,*****,speakers and things.Audio trends and midwest electronics, you can do it but don't ever leave your ride in gear...Belive me it sucks this the first I won't do one on.Burrrr!!!
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Dei is of the best only becuase they have bought all the others that were good. But seriously there are awsome there one the only companies outthere that spend over a million dollars a year in there tech support.Get a back up battery! the only way there getting it, if they want that bad is knock you out and tow it!!!

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get a crimestoppers alarm with remote start...its about 250-300 for it and its rated better than viper by most people who bought it from my local alarm shop
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just hire some gang to wait by your car at all times.if anyone gets within a 3 foot radius tell them to shoot em.
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Originally Posted by againifall
depends on where you live.. they are fine here.. only thing i dont like about them is that you have to do all these steps before turnning off the car (set ebrake, neutral, tap brakes twice, dance the chachacha..) and if you for some reason have to go out to yer car for something.. you have to do it all over again or it wont work..

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wait, what? I have the 791 too and I have yet to do any of that. I unfortunately paid 750 dollars for my alarm and install. Place where I got it installed the bypass and a special mechanism(I really cant explain it, but, Im gonna call the shop to see if I can get a clearer way of explaining it) that detects if my car is in gear or not. If the car is in gear, then it chirps 6 times and makes my pager beep 3 times. If my car is not in gear, it starts the car and my pager beeps 2 times. Regular install with alarm would have been around 500, but, with this sensor it ran another 250. Its a great thing because Ill forget that I put it in gear, and Ill try and start it, but, I never end up getting too.
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