Water Wetter Works, My big fat ass
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Water Wetter Works, My big fat ***
You know how much it lowered my water temp?
ONE MEASLY DEGREE
I drove around for a good hour before I changed the coolant , the Defi-link said 191 degrees F
Changed it and added 13 capfuls of it like it said, drove around to get rid of the old coolant and ran to the mall, it said 190.
This stuff is bullshit. Save your $8 people.
And just so we're clear... the Defi computer is accurate down to .08 degrees... so no questioning of my measuring.
ONE MEASLY DEGREE
I drove around for a good hour before I changed the coolant , the Defi-link said 191 degrees F
Changed it and added 13 capfuls of it like it said, drove around to get rid of the old coolant and ran to the mall, it said 190.
This stuff is bullshit. Save your $8 people.
And just so we're clear... the Defi computer is accurate down to .08 degrees... so no questioning of my measuring.
Last edited by Boilermaker1; Aug 12, 2004 at 08:17 PM.
<---- been looking for a reason to use this, and this seems like the perfect time. 
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Rep Power: 423 Maybe I won't lose complete hope yet, its only been in the system for a few hours. From reading a little, the stuff works its way into all the radiator fins and stuff and aids the heat transfer. That could take some time given that it needs to dilute into the system and work its way through. I'll give it a few days to see what really happens... and if it doesn't work, I guess it's only $8 that I wasted, and I can leave it until next year when I go to change it again.
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Rep Power: 0 I wouldn't be so quick to poo-poo RL WW. Did you use old antifreeze or did you replace it with new stuff? And did you take a temp measurement before using the WW? I'm sorry for asking what appears to be redundant questions but I'm a little unclear about your anti-freeze change proceedure from your post.
I'm running 60% water and 40% antifreeze (Honda Type 2) along with WW. It works very well and the temp gauge doesn't move. It always stays slightly below the bottom wave on the gauge.
Last weekend I drove through the mountains to Palm Springs and spent some time there driving around in typical stoplight fashion. It was 106 degrees outside and the gauge stayed put.
Unless you live where it gets down below freezing a 60/40 antifreeze mix is ideal along with the WW. I did the math earlier and I seem to recall that if you drain out 28 ounces of antifreeze from the radiator petcock and replace it with distilled water you will achieve a 60/40 blend. You still have to burp the baby, however.
Hands down water cools better than antifreeze and the higher percentage of water that you can use for your locale the better you are in managing engine heat. With a 60/40 blend the freeze protection is still 11 degrees below zero. You still need something to lube the water pump and WW does this along with removing the surface tension of water so it transfers heat better. This is just like the lab experiment of floating a razor blade in water. Add some WW, the surface tension disappears and the blade sinks.
I'm running 60% water and 40% antifreeze (Honda Type 2) along with WW. It works very well and the temp gauge doesn't move. It always stays slightly below the bottom wave on the gauge.
Last weekend I drove through the mountains to Palm Springs and spent some time there driving around in typical stoplight fashion. It was 106 degrees outside and the gauge stayed put.
Unless you live where it gets down below freezing a 60/40 antifreeze mix is ideal along with the WW. I did the math earlier and I seem to recall that if you drain out 28 ounces of antifreeze from the radiator petcock and replace it with distilled water you will achieve a 60/40 blend. You still have to burp the baby, however.
Hands down water cools better than antifreeze and the higher percentage of water that you can use for your locale the better you are in managing engine heat. With a 60/40 blend the freeze protection is still 11 degrees below zero. You still need something to lube the water pump and WW does this along with removing the surface tension of water so it transfers heat better. This is just like the lab experiment of floating a razor blade in water. Add some WW, the surface tension disappears and the blade sinks.
Last edited by Flashlightboy; Aug 13, 2004 at 11:19 AM.
i have about 65% water, 30% antifreeze, and 5% water wetter (just about).
my stock temp gauge(i know its not accurate), doesn't move at all, or maybe half a bar when i running on open track. and my cars seen a lot of track abuse in its 14 month life.
boiler, i think you should have tried taking the temperature diff when you run at a track. WW isn't going to do much on street driving. it might actually work when your pushing ur motor to its limit all day
my stock temp gauge(i know its not accurate), doesn't move at all, or maybe half a bar when i running on open track. and my cars seen a lot of track abuse in its 14 month life.
boiler, i think you should have tried taking the temperature diff when you run at a track. WW isn't going to do much on street driving. it might actually work when your pushing ur motor to its limit all day
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Rep Power: 423 Its brand new stuff (50/50 + a little extra water) + the recommended amount of WW. If I'm comparing to the track, I'm going off basically the same number... maybe a little higher, around 195-197, and I suppose I can see what it does, but I honestly don't anticipate much of an improvement. Perhaps its a testament to the adequacy of the stock cooling system.
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Rep Power: 380 I was under the impression that water wetter was more for increasing the waters boiling point rather then reducing its opperating temp.
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Originally Posted by Zzyzx
I was under the impression that water wetter was more for increasing the waters boiling point rather then reducing its opperating temp.
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Rep Power: 0 WW does not, to a significant degree, increase the boiling point. The antifreeze does and the greater percentage the greater the boiling point but the flipside is that the more you use the less water there is which is what really transfers the heat. Antifreeze doesn't help transfer heat - it impedes the rapid dissipation.
The real key to raising the boiling point is the radiator cap. Pressurzing the system with a 16lb cap raises the boiling point by something in the order of 30 or so degrees.
That little bugger is terribly important to the cooling system which is why you should change it every two years when you replace your coolant.
The key to good heat management is to have something in your radiator to lube up the water pump and seals, rapidly dissipate the generated heat while keeping the system from boiling over. I still maintain that you should use as much water as your weather permits but keep at least 30% antifreeze regardless. Using WW will break up the surface tension of the water. A good cap will raise the boiling point of water to nearly 230 or so degrees. It's all mix and match.
The real key to raising the boiling point is the radiator cap. Pressurzing the system with a 16lb cap raises the boiling point by something in the order of 30 or so degrees.
That little bugger is terribly important to the cooling system which is why you should change it every two years when you replace your coolant.
The key to good heat management is to have something in your radiator to lube up the water pump and seals, rapidly dissipate the generated heat while keeping the system from boiling over. I still maintain that you should use as much water as your weather permits but keep at least 30% antifreeze regardless. Using WW will break up the surface tension of the water. A good cap will raise the boiling point of water to nearly 230 or so degrees. It's all mix and match.
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it was originally designed for use in race cars that used only water for coolant, to help lubricate the water pump in the absence of the lubricatants in antifreeze. it does not typically raise boiling point, just as flashlightboy said. alot of race cars use 28-30psi radiator caps to raise the boiling point of the coolant.
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WaterWetter® is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30ºF. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze systems. Compatible with all antifreezes, including the latest long-life variations.
http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf <----- the manual
I know a bunch of people that are very happy with it on race cars or older cars that have a tendency (sp?) to overheat.....
WaterWetter® is a unique wetting agent for cooling systems which reduces coolant temperatures by as much as 30ºF. This liquid product can be used to provide rust and corrosion protection in plain water for racing engines, which provides much better heat transfer properties than glycol-based antifreeze. Or it can be added to new or used antifreeze to improve the heat transfer of ethylene and propylene glycol systems. Designed for modern aluminum, cast iron, copper, brass and bronze systems. Compatible with all antifreezes, including the latest long-life variations.
http://www.redlineoil.com/whitePaper/17.pdf <----- the manual
I know a bunch of people that are very happy with it on race cars or older cars that have a tendency (sp?) to overheat.....
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