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Originally posted by Novaz3
once again like i said before whats the point of swapping a k20 into a civic when it doesnt do much for the car anyway, with all the money you spend for the damn swap you could just buy a RSX TYPE S and call it a day. Man only ricers who dont think would even consider such a swap. If you're going to swap go big or go home, swapping a K20 into a Civic which in no way shape or form is even designed to handle the TQ and HP of a K20 engine, plus it will be even more front heavy thus causing you to lose grip when turning. Why do you think they take parts from the RSX and put them onto Civics??? and not the reverse?? because the RSX is by far a better car in all aspects adding a engine that gets you 200 HP and 142 TQ wont yield you the same gains in a CIVIC i dont care how good the swap is the car will under perform and will be a waste of time and money. sure bragging rights might be nice "hey i have a K20 in my civic" but in the long run your civic wont be able to even hold its own with a stock RSX TYPE S nor a PRELUDE so really whats the point hmmmm i guess ricers will always be ricers
once again like i said before whats the point of swapping a k20 into a civic when it doesnt do much for the car anyway, with all the money you spend for the damn swap you could just buy a RSX TYPE S and call it a day. Man only ricers who dont think would even consider such a swap. If you're going to swap go big or go home, swapping a K20 into a Civic which in no way shape or form is even designed to handle the TQ and HP of a K20 engine, plus it will be even more front heavy thus causing you to lose grip when turning. Why do you think they take parts from the RSX and put them onto Civics??? and not the reverse?? because the RSX is by far a better car in all aspects adding a engine that gets you 200 HP and 142 TQ wont yield you the same gains in a CIVIC i dont care how good the swap is the car will under perform and will be a waste of time and money. sure bragging rights might be nice "hey i have a K20 in my civic" but in the long run your civic wont be able to even hold its own with a stock RSX TYPE S nor a PRELUDE so really whats the point hmmmm i guess ricers will always be ricers
http://www.hondawerx.com/modifiedk20.htm
then tell me what you think. Maybe I should invite these guys to the thread and have them give you a piece of their mind. I am personal friends with the guy who did this swap and he is a member of this site.
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Rep Power: 0 Rice i appreciate your obvious concern for me not appreciating a fellow ricers swapping habit however if you took time to read that article you would notice that the civic featured has added a turbo kit thus improving its performance. Not that the K20 done by a professional woudnt be a swap worth wide(IN RICE LAND) but in reality K20 swap with no turbo wouldnt be able to smoke a RSX TYPE S nor a PRELUDE so continue your obvious tread in RICE LIKE FASHION while i continue to put my money where its most beneficial in a better car.
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Rep Power: 413 BTW, that swap civic was kicking modified RSX-S asses left and right without the turbo. No one could beat the swap car.
Now that it's got the turbo on it is unstoppable. One week after they got the turbo on it beat a Twin Turbo Supra in a race.
Now that it's got the turbo on it is unstoppable. One week after they got the turbo on it beat a Twin Turbo Supra in a race.
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Originally posted by Novaz3
Also i support FLYRICER on that note, NOT TRYING TO BE SEXIEST??? thats like saying you support the KKK but you're not trying to be racist. Dude its obvious you are a sexiest dont try to sugar coat it with BULL SH*T saying you arent its obvious. A girl can drive anything a man can i thought that was proven with that lady drag racer but its obvious your brain doesnt comprehend things so allow me to tell you, you really need to grow up and just because girls turn you down and you have no GF that doesnt mean you have to come in here and act superior, hell im surprised you could even type but wait isnt that something a girl should be doing???? typical guy
Also i support FLYRICER on that note, NOT TRYING TO BE SEXIEST??? thats like saying you support the KKK but you're not trying to be racist. Dude its obvious you are a sexiest dont try to sugar coat it with BULL SH*T saying you arent its obvious. A girl can drive anything a man can i thought that was proven with that lady drag racer but its obvious your brain doesnt comprehend things so allow me to tell you, you really need to grow up and just because girls turn you down and you have no GF that doesnt mean you have to come in here and act superior, hell im surprised you could even type but wait isnt that something a girl should be doing???? typical guy
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Rep Power: 0 why am i forced to point out obvious flaws in the previous statement. The Engine mentioned in the article is a K20A DC5 TYPE R engine, i may have been born at night but it damn sure wasnt last night. If memory serves me correctly that engine is only available in Japanese Honda Integras. Thus the engine swap that this other guy is referring to couldnt be that engine because its not available in the USA. Why yes you can purchase a Japanese motor from a JDM seller and perhaps produce similiar gains. But then you would have to find a dealer that could do the intall as well as all the parts you would need for the install, and lets not forget about that painful word we all hate hearing when we get our cars services LABOR. Thus going back to my previous statement that a K20 swap would not be worth the money considering you could just purchase a RSX TYPE S and add a turbo(yes i know there arent many made for it but give it time) also about that Supra comment, every one that knows about cars knows that supras have an achilles heal. "SUPRAS HAVE TONS OF POWER BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY HAVE TROUBLE PUTTING ALL THAT POWER TO THE WHEELS" so a Honda K20A(integra type R) powered Civic with the wieght difference between the Supra and the fact the Civic has a Turbo added on top of that makes plenty of sense why the supra wouldnt win whewwwww hey why dont we all go out and buy WRX STI and EVO 8 and call it a day
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Rep Power: 413 DUH!!!! That's what we've been talking about. The auction is not for a JDM K20a even though it says it is.
Labor cost on a JDM K20a vs. a USDM K20a2 are THE SAME!!!
Reasons people would swap the engine into their civic:
1. Some people like to work on cars and modify them. It's a challenge to do the swap. That's why we like to do it!!!
2. Some people like the civic body style
3. Some people can't afford the insurance of an RSX
Labor cost on a JDM K20a vs. a USDM K20a2 are THE SAME!!!
Reasons people would swap the engine into their civic:
1. Some people like to work on cars and modify them. It's a challenge to do the swap. That's why we like to do it!!!
2. Some people like the civic body style
3. Some people can't afford the insurance of an RSX
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Rep Power: 0 Well i mean much love for you all that love doing the swaps but im going to just save up and get my EVO 8 i love the style and look. I know the tranny doesnt hold up after several slips at the light but i could be wrong
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Rep Power: 0 EVO 8 vs WRX STI??? which would be better even though i know the WRX STI is a BULL DOGG for power i was considering the EVO 8 because of style but theres something fishy about the EVO is it true that Mitsubishi trans are garbage??? hmmmm or should i just stick with my MUGEN POWERED RSX TYPE S tough choices thats why i love Imports if i could i would love to have a Skyline GTR but im sure everyone would
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Rep Power: 0 hassomi or whatever your retarded *** name is, for one this isn't english class you dyke. If you're so concerned with my spelling then i suggest you ignore my post retard otherwise STFU and get in line moron.
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Rep Power: 0 No No doing those engine swaps arent rice, only engine swaps were the gains arent that great are rice. if you can gain 80+ HP or TQ doing a simple swap then go for it but if you are only gaining say 15 to 20 i say save your money invest in a turbo or Nitrous kit and call it a day. Look i dont want to fight on these boards alright im here because i love cars not to argue
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man, your obnoxious comments all over this thread are good for a laugh or two, but you haven't made a single useful comment yet. you badmouthed people and pulled information out of your ***, and they corrected your stupid mistakes, you ignored them... haha, love the way you handled FlyRice's reply about the engine; you CHANGED THE SUBJECT and started talking about EVOs. boy, you showed him....
i've been own3d!!!man, your obnoxious comments all over this thread are good for a laugh or two, but you haven't made a single useful comment yet. you badmouthed people and pulled information out of your ***, and they corrected your stupid mistakes, you ignored them... haha, love the way you handled FlyRice's reply about the engine; you CHANGED THE SUBJECT and started talking about EVOs. boy, you showed him....
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by Novaz3
No No doing those engine swaps arent rice, only engine swaps were the gains arent that great are rice. if you can gain 80+ HP or TQ doing a simple swap then go for it but if you are only gaining say 15 to 20 i say save your money invest in a turbo or Nitrous kit and call it a day.
No No doing those engine swaps arent rice, only engine swaps were the gains arent that great are rice. if you can gain 80+ HP or TQ doing a simple swap then go for it but if you are only gaining say 15 to 20 i say save your money invest in a turbo or Nitrous kit and call it a day.
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Rep Power: 334 umm old 6thgen civic ex has like 120~ hp? and u swap in B16 with 160 hp? and that = not rice
thats the same as 7hgen civic ex with 127 hp and u swap K20A3 with same 160 hp? but this = rice
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thats the same as 7hgen civic ex with 127 hp and u swap K20A3 with same 160 hp? but this = rice
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Rep Power: 0 Originally posted by macrossranma
even if u pay 800 for it u gotta pay another 3k at least for install
even if u pay 800 for it u gotta pay another 3k at least for install
when we had just the k20a JDM ITR swap in the silver car, it ran 13.9-14.2 int he quater on street tires. the jdm swap is the same as a US type S swap as far as install and parts needed goes. so show me all the RSX S, or RSX bases or ludes doing that? . some do with mods of course. alot of them are running low 14s with a fair amoutn fo mods. as far as the chasis not being built for it, youre nuts..... its the same chasis for the most part! same suspension points and frame rail locations etc. is ti expensive, yea, worth it? to some, but it IS fast. with turbo, its even faster now of course.
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Rep Power: 413 Originally posted by MugenRacerX
when we had just the k20a JDM ITR swap in the silver car, it ran 13.9-14.2 int he quater on street tires. the jdm swap is the same as a US type S swap as far as install and parts needed goes. so show me all the RSX S, or RSX bases or ludes doing that? . some do with mods of course. alot of them are running low 14s with a fair amoutn fo mods. as far as the chasis not being built for it, youre nuts..... its the same chasis for the most part! same suspension points and frame rail locations etc. is ti expensive, yea, worth it? to some, but it IS fast. with turbo, its even faster now of course.
when we had just the k20a JDM ITR swap in the silver car, it ran 13.9-14.2 int he quater on street tires. the jdm swap is the same as a US type S swap as far as install and parts needed goes. so show me all the RSX S, or RSX bases or ludes doing that? . some do with mods of course. alot of them are running low 14s with a fair amoutn fo mods. as far as the chasis not being built for it, youre nuts..... its the same chasis for the most part! same suspension points and frame rail locations etc. is ti expensive, yea, worth it? to some, but it IS fast. with turbo, its even faster now of course.
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Rep Power: 0 like i said before im not going to waste time arguing with ppl that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Im not referring to the chassis of the DC 5 vs the Civic and i dont care about how similiar they are the point remains that they are not the same. Civic suspension vs RSX suspension isnt the same. There isnt the same bolt patterns and the Chassis length isnt the same i dont care if both are silver in color or they both use the same metal the point is they are not the same. Like you said however yes its totally up to the person with the money if they want to do the swap and have a K20 powered Civic go right ahead i dont care. Good luck with the intalls and see you at the tracks peace outside
Originally posted by Novaz3
like i said before im not going to waste time arguing with ppl that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Im not referring to the chassis of the DC 5 vs the Civic and i dont care about how similiar they are the point remains that they are not the same. Civic suspension vs RSX suspension isnt the same. There isnt the same bolt patterns and the Chassis length isnt the same i dont care if both are silver in color or they both use the same metal the point is they are not the same. Like you said however yes its totally up to the person with the money if they want to do the swap and have a K20 powered Civic go right ahead i dont care. Good luck with the intalls and see you at the tracks peace outside
like i said before im not going to waste time arguing with ppl that obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Im not referring to the chassis of the DC 5 vs the Civic and i dont care about how similiar they are the point remains that they are not the same. Civic suspension vs RSX suspension isnt the same. There isnt the same bolt patterns and the Chassis length isnt the same i dont care if both are silver in color or they both use the same metal the point is they are not the same. Like you said however yes its totally up to the person with the money if they want to do the swap and have a K20 powered Civic go right ahead i dont care. Good luck with the intalls and see you at the tracks peace outside
i know nothing huh..... you have no place to even say that whatso ever. onlt thing diffrent on the RSX suspension vs the civic, is the struts/springs (which any tuner changes anyway. bolt patern isdifferent on the hubs, not suspension. only thing diffrent on the chasis length is the front and rear overhangs. which a rsx is about 6inches shorter out back. ive yet to race a RSX with mods that could hold its own against the car when it was swapped only. BTW, i drive a Type S as well, so i have a constant comparison...... feel fre to shoot any tech question my way... itll be shortly answered. i know these chasis inside out....
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Rep Power: 413 Originally posted by MugenRacerX
i know nothing huh..... you have no place to even say that whatso ever. onlt thing diffrent on the RSX suspension vs the civic, is the struts/springs (which any tuner changes anyway. bolt patern isdifferent on the hubs, not suspension. only thing diffrent on the chasis length is the front and rear overhangs. which a rsx is about 6inches shorter out back. ive yet to race a RSX with mods that could hold its own against the car when it was swapped only. BTW, i drive a Type S as well, so i have a constant comparison...... feel fre to shoot any tech question my way... itll be shortly answered. i know these chasis inside out....
i know nothing huh..... you have no place to even say that whatso ever. onlt thing diffrent on the RSX suspension vs the civic, is the struts/springs (which any tuner changes anyway. bolt patern isdifferent on the hubs, not suspension. only thing diffrent on the chasis length is the front and rear overhangs. which a rsx is about 6inches shorter out back. ive yet to race a RSX with mods that could hold its own against the car when it was swapped only. BTW, i drive a Type S as well, so i have a constant comparison...... feel fre to shoot any tech question my way... itll be shortly answered. i know these chasis inside out....
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Rep Power: 424 Originally posted by Novaz3
No No doing those engine swaps arent rice, only engine swaps were the gains arent that great are rice. if you can gain 80+ HP or TQ doing a simple swap then go for it but if you are only gaining say 15 to 20 i say save your money invest in a turbo or Nitrous kit and call it a day. Look i dont want to fight on these boards alright im here because i love cars not to argue
No No doing those engine swaps arent rice, only engine swaps were the gains arent that great are rice. if you can gain 80+ HP or TQ doing a simple swap then go for it but if you are only gaining say 15 to 20 i say save your money invest in a turbo or Nitrous kit and call it a day. Look i dont want to fight on these boards alright im here because i love cars not to argue
Atleast pick one side of the story, then figure out what the hell you're talking about before you start ****.
Oh, and btw... when you drop identical drive trains into 2 cars, one that weighs 2450 and the other weighing 2750... one is going to be faster than the other.
