What is the best tempature output using HID's.
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What is the best tempature output using HID's.
I have read some other posts on HID lighting and they say that anything over 6000K is not worth it, is this true? I called a shop here in houston, and I told them that I wanted a hid kit that was rising whitish purple like the BMWs and lexus and they told me 8000K. I love the rising whitish purple color. Does anyone know the temp output of the lighting on those cars and also the S2000?
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ALL FACTORY HID (i.e. Lexus, bmw, S2000) IS 4100K - 4300K.
The "color" is achieved by the design of the housing (assuming that the car has Reflectors, as opposed to Projectors)
ALL FACTORY HID (i.e. Lexus, bmw, S2000) IS 4100K - 4300K.
The "color" is achieved by the design of the housing (assuming that the car has Reflectors, as opposed to Projectors)
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you could also save your $ 
Or do yourself a favor and check out these prices...
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...postid=1341618
McCulloch HID Kit:
5300k - $280
6000k - $310
8000k - $330
10,000k - $350
H4 DUAL BEAM KIT
5300K - $435
6000K - $455
8000K - $475
10000K - $495
Or do yourself a favor and check out these prices... http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...postid=1341618
McCulloch HID Kit:
5300k - $280
6000k - $310
8000k - $330
10,000k - $350
H4 DUAL BEAM KIT
5300K - $435
6000K - $455
8000K - $475
10000K - $495
Stick with 4100k for the brightest output and no problems with the authorities. Aftermarket kits cannot be made to look like OEM BMW, Audi, etc... The purple or blue you see on OEM HID is just the cut-off line, but the light below that is pure white. That's why you see the light change color when the car is bouncing up and down. With the aftermarket kit, the entire light is purple or blue, which makes the road seems dim.
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Rep Power: 454 I was looking to spend about 400, so basically everyone is saying that there is modification needed to be done. Do they look good once they fit in the projectors.
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why shouldnt I buy the 8000K kit?
why shouldnt I buy the 8000K kit?
and my hid, 4500k catz
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Rep Power: 0 4100K all the way. Just get some angel eye projectors, the retrofit some BMW or Audi projectors in there, and then put in an HID kit. It will look exactly like BMW/Audi headlights, but it will be on a Civic.
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Rep Power: 0 Hefe..Once again..STOP BASHING MY GROUP BUY!!! Do you have nothing better to do?
I have sold a kit to a member already..let him establish his opinion on my product and he can report back to the forum. You do not have my product, have probably never seen it..and base your statements from your personal preference. If you dont like the blue lights...then get some white ones somewhere else for the $500 your ganna spend and let everyone else make their own decision upon what kind of look they want their cars to have.
I have sold a kit to a member already..let him establish his opinion on my product and he can report back to the forum. You do not have my product, have probably never seen it..and base your statements from your personal preference. If you dont like the blue lights...then get some white ones somewhere else for the $500 your ganna spend and let everyone else make their own decision upon what kind of look they want their cars to have.
Originally posted by ViNRoCk8
I was looking into the Catz HID kit, I am gonna do a search and see if anyone has them. Post some pics for those of you guys that have HID's.
I was looking into the Catz HID kit, I am gonna do a search and see if anyone has them. Post some pics for those of you guys that have HID's.
YO VIN... i can get u those HID's.. for cheaper then what dudes selling them in the GB... and ill install them fo free
PM me and we'll talk and meet up 
oh here are what mine look like ... Originally posted by UBrightlights
Hefe..Once again..STOP BASHING MY GROUP BUY!!! Do you have nothing better to do?
I have sold a kit to a member already..let him establish his opinion on my product and he can report back to the forum. You do not have my product, have probably never seen it..and base your statements from your personal preference. If you dont like the blue lights...then get some white ones somewhere else for the $500 your ganna spend and let everyone else make their own decision upon what kind of look they want their cars to have.
Hefe..Once again..STOP BASHING MY GROUP BUY!!! Do you have nothing better to do?
I have sold a kit to a member already..let him establish his opinion on my product and he can report back to the forum. You do not have my product, have probably never seen it..and base your statements from your personal preference. If you dont like the blue lights...then get some white ones somewhere else for the $500 your ganna spend and let everyone else make their own decision upon what kind of look they want their cars to have.
btw heres another pic of my lights they look blue but they're really blush /purple.. about 8000k...
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DO NOT GET THE 8000K KIT!!!!!
The "color" is achieved by the design of the housing (assuming that the car has Reflectors, as opposed to Projectors)
DO NOT GET THE 8000K KIT!!!!!
The "color" is achieved by the design of the housing (assuming that the car has Reflectors, as opposed to Projectors)
and dude dont comment on **** u know nothing about... the 4000k , 6000k ,8000k, etc is the temperature at which the gas burns to produce the desired color... hense higher temperature creates different colors.
to say that the design of the housing creates the color is by FAR most retarded thing ive ever seen posted on this site
and do us all A FAVOR dont talk **** about a vender unless you actually bought one of his products .. it just makes u look stupid. and dont get mad at me for writing this..
im equally pissed of that u have the nerve to make up some **** about housings and stating that 8000k is bad and 10000k is a joke or something?... 8000k is purple'sh, 6000k is bluish, and 4000k is white , 10000k is really purple and anything inbetween those numbers are just slightly off the colors i stated so all the temperatures are good is just a matter of taste and opinion of the one u want.... I myself have about 7-8k because they are blue close up but purple'sh far away...
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I know that the main color of the kits when they are xxxxK, but the design of the headlight housings does affect the overall color of the light produced.. simply stated.. Our headlight housings were not made for HID!
I know that the main color of the kits when they are xxxxK, but the design of the headlight housings does affect the overall color of the light produced.. simply stated.. Our headlight housings were not made for HID!
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Originally posted by OsOBooSTeD
and dude dont comment on **** u know nothing about... the 4000k , 6000k ,8000k, etc is the temperature at which the gas burns to produce the desired color... hense higher temperature creates different colors.
to say that the design of the housing creates the color is by FAR most retarded thing ive ever seen posted on this site
and do us all A FAVOR dont talk **** about a vender unless you actually bought one of his products .. it just makes u look stupid. and dont get mad at me for writing this..
im equally pissed of that u have the nerve to make up some **** about housings and stating that 8000k is bad and 10000k is a joke or something?... 8000k is purple'sh, 6000k is bluish, and 4000k is white , 10000k is really purple and anything inbetween those numbers are just slightly off the colors i stated so all the temperatures are good is just a matter of taste and opinion of the one u want.... I myself have about 7-8k because they are blue close up but purple'sh far away...
and dude dont comment on **** u know nothing about... the 4000k , 6000k ,8000k, etc is the temperature at which the gas burns to produce the desired color... hense higher temperature creates different colors.
to say that the design of the housing creates the color is by FAR most retarded thing ive ever seen posted on this site
and do us all A FAVOR dont talk **** about a vender unless you actually bought one of his products .. it just makes u look stupid. and dont get mad at me for writing this..
im equally pissed of that u have the nerve to make up some **** about housings and stating that 8000k is bad and 10000k is a joke or something?... 8000k is purple'sh, 6000k is bluish, and 4000k is white , 10000k is really purple and anything inbetween those numbers are just slightly off the colors i stated so all the temperatures are good is just a matter of taste and opinion of the one u want.... I myself have about 7-8k because they are blue close up but purple'sh far away...
YES...the reflector housing in the headlamp DOES influence the color output! Why you ask?
Well lets start with the actual 4100k bulb:
yellow light is omitted from the bottom of the xenon capsule, blue/purple/white light is omitted from the the top of the bulb. The reason is because of the salts and how they settle in the bulb due to natural gravity.
Reflector:
Because this small amount of yellow light is useless, the OEM reflectors on cars equipped with HID must have a way to just focus on the blue light which is the useable light. If you look at alot of cars standard with HIDS in reflectors, they have a little shield that goes under the buld to block the yellow light. And on top of that, the mirrors on the reflector are angled in a certain way to make sure that only the blue/purple/white light is what is distributed from the bulb out of the reflector.
Now lets' talk about Halogen reflectors:
They AREN'T made for HID.......so when someone slaps a 4100k kit in one, you can get colors from green, to white with only slight blue and a hint of yellow (which is most of the time). On top of that...lots of glare. Because of this, vendors have come out with all kinds of 6000k, 8000k , and even 10000k!! Why? Because you can't get OEM HID color with Halogen reflectors.....unless you spend hours altering your reflector. So if they alter the color of the bulb, you can try come close to OEM color.......BUT, it wont be nearly as bright as OEM 4100k when it comes to ground lighting.
So, in conclusion: When it comes to 4100k, OEM HID reflectors ARE the reason why the color is the way it is and why every has to buy 6000k+ kits to try to reproduce that color because 4100k is yellowish in Halogen housings.
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and dude dont comment on **** u know nothing about... the 4000k , 6000k ,8000k, etc is the temperature at which the gas burns to produce the desired color... hense higher temperature creates different colors.
and dude dont comment on **** u know nothing about... the 4000k , 6000k ,8000k, etc is the temperature at which the gas burns to produce the desired color... hense higher temperature creates different colors.
think about it for a moment...
and also IF IT IS the temperature needed for the gas to burn, then the one that affect the colour is the ballast/ignitor setup, as those component is the one that actually created the current high enough for the gas to burn at the desired temperature... higher temperature = higher current
BUT why on earth only the capsule needs to be changed if you want to change the colour, simple because all of them uses the same current.. and it's the capsule innert gas (and some coating in some cases) that causes the lights to be different from one another.
just look at those neon lights... no filament inside.... the one that makes the colour different is the gasses inside the tube, and it doesn't mean that the blue neon is hotter than red neon..
simply said.. the xxxxK is the COLOUR TEMPERATURE rating, NOT the the TEMPERATURE rating
just want to correct some misconception here.
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Rep Power: 0 i would not get the 8000K. it is too much purple for me, and i don't want to attract the cops attention.....
imo i would get the 7000K hella kit. hella is the same as phillips but cheaper !! 7000K will give me the white-purpleish color that i love.
imo i would get the 7000K hella kit. hella is the same as phillips but cheaper !! 7000K will give me the white-purpleish color that i love.
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I thought aftermarket HID kits weren't allowed to be sold anymore...
I thought aftermarket HID kits weren't allowed to be sold anymore...
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Rep Power: 454 damn, when I started this post I was just wondering what the best tempature would be, and look now, it has turned into a war sorda. Well I went ahead and got the 8000k kit, it is awesome. when I turn it on it is pure purple, but when it heats up it is whitish purple, it looks better than cars with oem hid kits in my opinion.
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hmm, fighting about colors,
......ok
hmm, fighting about colors,
......ok
BTW.......this isn't a fight, it's about correcting misinformation, and hopefully at the same time keepin yall safe and with less traffic tickets..........that is if you even care.
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Rep Power: 454 I appreciate it, I honestly dont care if I get a ticket for the HIDs, I think they look pimp as hell, besides, it is a fix it ticket which usually cost about 50-75 to just pay it, and it doesnt go on the driving record. And usually cops in houston dont care about the color of headlights, they really dont care what lights on on a car, they are only worried about street racing on saturday night. But we have to watch out in the rich cities.
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i would not get the 8000K. it is too much purple for me, and i don't want to attract the cops attention.....
imo i would get the 7000K hella kit. hella is the same as phillips but cheaper !! 7000K will give me the white-purpleish color that i love.
i would not get the 8000K. it is too much purple for me, and i don't want to attract the cops attention.....
imo i would get the 7000K hella kit. hella is the same as phillips but cheaper !! 7000K will give me the white-purpleish color that i love.
Hella only makes the ballasts for HID set-ups, they don't make the HID bulbs. Hella also makes projectors. So there's no such thing as a Hella "kit". HID bulbs are only made by Philips, Osram/Sylvania, and on rare occasions GE. The highest color that Philips makes for OEM is 4100k, aftermarket is 6000k, also known as "Ultinons"........The highest color Osram/Sylvania makes for OEM is 4100k, for aftermarket is 5400k which is only used in their "Xenarc" brand of auxillilary lamps and headlamp upgrades for Ford and Chevy trucks.
Any bulbs you see higher then 6000k aren't made by a reputable lighting company, usually produced in Asia and don't have the same quality as say Philips or Osram.
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