FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
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FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
Just bought this from CrewChief, not going to use it, giving you guys a killer opportunity. It's on eBay so we'll both benefit from feedback (and mine is 100% positive). In fact, it's in a box and ready to ship. Bidding starts at .99 and has no reserve. You'll also benefit from the fact that I cleaned the thing off and made it all purty like. Limited run on this thing and they don't pop up everyday. If you need more info, just ask.
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
thats the one lol.. new job has me waking up way too early im dead tired by the afternoon
cant you see the transition of the two middle runners through the TB opening?
cant you see the transition of the two middle runners through the TB opening?
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
I dunno, I'm starting to think this thing might help me pay to fix my sink that I scratched to ****. It was on eBay for less than 3 hours and hit $51 and still has a week left.
Typically, no. However, you're welcome to try to convince me.
There is no smooth transition, the runners were welded flush with the edge of the intake.
Typically, no. However, you're welcome to try to convince me.
There is no smooth transition, the runners were welded flush with the edge of the intake.
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
I think it has to do with the square design? Apparently Crewchief saw some 40+ HP gains but I'd PM him for specifics. I really liked it because I didn't need to make the drastic changes that a d16y8 mani requires. I suppose I could have bolted it on and tested it but my days are busy enough as is to be testing ****.
Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
Yeah it is. You get what you pay for though, no offense. I seriously doubt anyone ever had dyno proven 40hp gains with any manifold as a straight swap out at these power levels. I'll call b.s. on that, hehe.
Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
hmm...so it's pretty much just built not to blow up under 8psi or more.....bummer.....I love the JDMFabtech manifold!!! that thing is sexy! I just might wait then.....
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
Honestly, I know as much about this thing as you guys do. I had no plans to boost when this came out. I'm sure you could search for threads with KMS in them.
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
I'm curious to see what I'll get on your mani Gerry. I'll dyno the car after I install it next month and let you know. The only difference in my setup at that point will be the forged internals, but that shouldn't matter too much from a power standpoint.
Good luck on the sale Rufus. Too bad you ended up buying a paperweight. Although in thinking about it, once a mani pressurizes, how much is the plenum shape really going to matter? NA is where it really matters, because you aren't forcing air into the head, and you need to give it a nice smooth path to build as much pressure and velocity as you can. However, with a boosted engine, once the turbo makes positive manifold pressure, air is going to take the path of least resistance to relieve the pressure - in this case into the head regardless of the plenum config. I admit, Gerry builds a much better IM, which I'm glad to be a proud owner of, but I wouldn't be surprised that this one performs decently too. Plus the biggest factor is that it won't leak under high boost. Just my .02.
Good luck on the sale Rufus. Too bad you ended up buying a paperweight. Although in thinking about it, once a mani pressurizes, how much is the plenum shape really going to matter? NA is where it really matters, because you aren't forcing air into the head, and you need to give it a nice smooth path to build as much pressure and velocity as you can. However, with a boosted engine, once the turbo makes positive manifold pressure, air is going to take the path of least resistance to relieve the pressure - in this case into the head regardless of the plenum config. I admit, Gerry builds a much better IM, which I'm glad to be a proud owner of, but I wouldn't be surprised that this one performs decently too. Plus the biggest factor is that it won't leak under high boost. Just my .02.
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
. Although in thinking about it, once a mani pressurizes, how much is the plenum shape really going to matter? NA is where it really matters, because you aren't forcing air into the head, and you need to give it a nice smooth path to build as much pressure and velocity as you can. However, with a boosted engine, once the turbo makes positive manifold pressure, air is going to take the path of least resistance to relieve the pressure - in this case into the head regardless of the plenum config.
On a side note, a guy on eGay just asked me to ship to Australia. lol
Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
I've seen worse setups, its not horrible. Heat soak is a killer, thats why every manufacturer has plastic manifolds now, so needless to say without an insulator it will get quite hot. You guys arent too far off with the dynamics of a turbo manifold but hitting the bottom of the plenum seriously reduces the velocity of the air going into the engine. What you want is the smoothest transition possible. The plenum I make helps that transition by not creating resistance at the entrance. In theory it should swirl the air on either side of the plenum and twist it into the runners, maybe thats why it seems to work so nicely. Im sure the KMS works fine and it probably would be a good gain for not a lot of money. Don't know what you want for it but I'm sure its a fraction of the cost of one of mine.
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Re: FS: KMS Intake Manifold Turbo/Boost Aluminum EM2/ES1
I've seen worse setups, its not horrible. Heat soak is a killer, thats why every manufacturer has plastic manifolds now, so needless to say without an insulator it will get quite hot. You guys arent too far off with the dynamics of a turbo manifold but hitting the bottom of the plenum seriously reduces the velocity of the air going into the engine. What you want is the smoothest transition possible. The plenum I make helps that transition by not creating resistance at the entrance. In theory it should swirl the air on either side of the plenum and twist it into the runners, maybe thats why it seems to work so nicely. Im sure the KMS works fine and it probably would be a good gain for not a lot of money. Don't know what you want for it but I'm sure its a fraction of the cost of one of mine.
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