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Most of the digital caps I have seen just place the voltmeter on top of a normal cap in parallel. The problem with this is all the current that flows into and out of the capacitor has to also flow through a dinky little voltmeter piece. That is not what you're looking for.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
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Most of the digital caps I have seen just place the voltmeter on top of a normal cap in parallel. The problem with this is all the current that flows into and out of the capacitor has to also flow through a dinky little voltmeter piece. That is not what you're looking for.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
It's not the voltage that is a concern. The voltage should be the same at all points from the top of the capacitor to the bottom. The problem is you are pulling all of the current through this little voltage meter which isn't designed to pass tons of current, just to calculate voltage.
A better design would be to have the meter leads connected at the bottom of the capacitor so the current doesn't pass directly through it.
The main issue is the very thin contacts on the voltmeter can't pass the amounts of current the cap is capable of containing/distributing.
Again, I've only seen this in a Rockford cap but it might be more common.
A better design would be to have the meter leads connected at the bottom of the capacitor so the current doesn't pass directly through it.
The main issue is the very thin contacts on the voltmeter can't pass the amounts of current the cap is capable of containing/distributing.
Again, I've only seen this in a Rockford cap but it might be more common.
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i can't see behind the battery, but it looks as though you still have the stock cable on there. where the battery cable runs left in this pic, follow that down to the chassis just under the relay box. that's the main battery to chassis cable. that's the one you want to be at least 4ga, if not 2ga or 0ga depending on how big you make your system later on. with the stock setup, this cable is crimped into a bracket and then continues down and right to the tranny. that is the third cable in the big 3. i don't have my camera until tomorrow or i'd take pics of mine to show you.
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Most of the digital caps I have seen just place the voltmeter on top of a normal cap in parallel. The problem with this is all the current that flows into and out of the capacitor has to also flow through a dinky little voltmeter piece. That is not what you're looking for.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
I remember a particular RF cap that we pulled apart at work because my boss told me this and I didn't believe him. Sure enough there it was, you could pull the voltmeter piece right off and there was a normal cap. I don't think they are all like this but it's tough to figure it out without some disassembly.
The problem is the current flows into the + terminal of the cap, directly through the volt meter contacts, and then into the capacitor. When the amp draws power from the cap it must go through those contacts before it can go on to the amp. All current which flows into and out of the cap must go through these thin contacts.
Series vs. parallel has nothing to do with it because you can't put a voltmeter in series (but you already knew that, and voltage drop testing is excluded).
Again, if the connections for the voltmeter were at the bottom instead of the top with the terminals there would be no issue.
Series vs. parallel has nothing to do with it because you can't put a voltmeter in series (but you already knew that, and voltage drop testing is excluded).
Again, if the connections for the voltmeter were at the bottom instead of the top with the terminals there would be no issue.
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The problem is the current flows into the + terminal of the cap, directly through the volt meter contacts, and then into the capacitor. When the amp draws power from the cap it must go through those contacts before it can go on to the amp. All current which flows into and out of the cap must go through these thin contacts.
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yes, that's my point. the way your describing is a series situation. with parallel, the size of the contacts on the meter don't matter because they're not going to have much current going through them. all the current for the cap will be going through the binding posts.
But the problem is all the current ever held in the cap went through it.
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all the caps i've seen have the big binding post that the cables connect to. the binding posts go down into the cap. the meter has a ring terminal or something clamped in the binding post that feeds it. with this setup, there's no current limiting properties by the meter.
The RF I'm referring to literally had the meter resting directly above the terminals on the cap. We knew there was an issue because the bolts spun like crazy and weren't nearly as tight as they should have been.
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did it come from RF like that or was this already in someone's car?
Nope they were shipped like that. My boss even opened one up to explain it to me because I thought he was on crack. But sure enough he was right, that was about a year ago though. I haven't seen any caps in a while since they pulled me out of the stores so they may have redesigned.
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Nope they were shipped like that. My boss even opened one up to explain it to me because I thought he was on crack. But sure enough he was right, that was about a year ago though. I haven't seen any caps in a while since they pulled me out of the stores so they may have redesigned.
Basically my point is if you want a cap for the benefits of having one (stabilization of voltage supplied to amps, ability to release large currents faster than the car's electrical system) it sucks if you get the 'best' one but the design isn't all that well thought out. It looks cool but doesn't work as well as it should. Again, not saying all caps are like this at all. Just be on the lookout.
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