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Old Apr 15, 2007
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Ultimate Brake upgrade

My car is quickly turning into less of a daily driver and more of a track car. The brake setup that I have right now is EP3 brakes on the rear (discs), hawk hps pads on all four corners (the HP+ pads dusted way to much and wore to fast), Goodridge stainless lines on all four corners, and DOT 4 fluid. The car stops great, but I think that more could be had with a different setup. I know that most brakes offered for our cars (rotoras, wilwoods, etc.) make next to no difference. The reason for this is that those companies don't offer there premium brakes for our cars. So I was thinking of a custom setup. Here is what I am thinking: Running a brake that is WAY better than what is offered for the civics on all four corners, such as the brembos off of an STI or the Wilwood 6 piston brakes. My thought is that all I would need is the rotors and calipers, and then a custom bracket to make them fit. Is this a correct assumption or are there other differences that I am not thinking about??
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

I think you're wasting a lot of time and money. First of all.... 200 WHP is NOT a lot, contrary to popular belief. Honda challenge guys run more than that in cars that weigh 500 lbs less and have no problem hauling the cars to a halt. Second... the easiest option is the most obvious one.... 11.8" Type S brakes. You'll need the RSX master cylinder too, but there's no point wasting time with multi piston setups. You'll have to redo everything and hope you can get a pressure/volume ratio and a proportion that works. Major pain in the *** for very little gain unless your plan is to register for ALMS or something.
Additionally, you've just broken rule #1. You care about brake dust, and then you bitch about not having enough stopping power.
Every high power pad out there is going to make a dust storm. its unavoidable, the more aggressive the compound, the more its going to dust, because the faster it eats itself away and eats the rotor. Its how friction works.
So once you overcome your fear of dirty rims (or get black ones), go out on the track with some Cobalt GT sports, Hawk Blues, etc.... AKA track pads and some sticky tires, then see what happens.
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

no point of havin a great brake system and not a good master cylinder to back it up.
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

I guess I thought it would be just as simple as finding rotors that fit my car and work with the brakes I chose, then having a custom bracket made. If it is not that simple then, yeah I would agree that it is not worth it. The issue with the Hawk HP+ pads is not just the dust, they seemed to wear so quickly, my brakeing seemed to change all of the time. I guess when I used those I was daily driving ALOT more than I am now. So maybe I will go back to a more agressive pad and then spend the extra $ on a tranny rebuild and a quaif, I think that would be a better track mod anyway.
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

did you bleed your brakes recently? You might have air in your lines that make you brake like crap. I bled my brakes and it makes a worlds difference
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

Yes, I have bled them, it is not that they are bad........ It is just that my friend just got the Wilwood 6 piston brakes and they are amazing. I was just thinking of how I could put a similar setup on my civic, since all that is offered are the lowerend brake upgrades
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Re: Ultimate Brake upgrade

This may sound like a stupid question... but what performance aspect of your brakes are you trying to improve?
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