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Old Jan 29, 2007
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86 w/ a B16?

i have an 86 honda civic Si Hatch... i want to do more than drive with the stock engine... does anyone think i can throw in a B16 and if so where can i get the engine mounts... new or used... Thanks
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I found ones on Ebay for $160 they're supposed to fit my '88 but I haven't tried them yet 'cause I haven't found a motor to do it with....YET....
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wanna sell me your 86? lol i love 3rd gens my next project is going to be a 3rd gen si with a b18c5 check out hasport i know they make b series mounts for em
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yeah i checked out hasport... 600 bills for the mounts... and sorry i'm not selling it man... hahaha it feels good to know that i'm the only one in my city driving around in it!! i've been to all the junkyards here to get parts for it and nothing in any of them... i found a junkyard in Albuquerque NM that has the car and everything was there except the corner lights!! kind of made me feel unique to have to drive 4 hours to get parts for my car...
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they are rare. i love em! if i find one in good condition im gonna pick it up as a daily. i just think a 3rd gen with a nasty b series motor in it would be hot! on honda-tech there was a guy in austrailia who put a k20a in one. now thats some custom fab lol
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Originally Posted by mugenman
wanna sell me your 86? lol i love 3rd gens my next project is going to be a 3rd gen si with a b18c5 check out hasport i know they make b series mounts for em
88 mounts are different then 86 different body style your best bet is sell the car or buy the hasport ones
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i know they are different. i had an 89 for awhile. 84-97 are totally different from 88-91
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Sorry let me rephrase that... I found engine mounts to swap from the D15 engine to either a B16 or B18....but I haven't tried them yet as for not having the other engine yet....
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yeah hasport looks to be the only one that actually makes the mounts for my 86!! i was looking under my hood today and could only find one mount.??...?? it was off to the right when you open the hood... i couldn't find the other one... anywhere... i hope i'm not just riding on one mount right now... hahaha and if i have to pay 600 bucks for just one mount **** that i'll have someone make it for me for cheaper...
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okay change of plans... i heard a B18 would fit under my hood and from my understanding with a few bolt ons it would run just as well as a B16 with more torque...anyone know if this holds truth? and if so what bolt ons would i need? i already figured an ls tranny is in order that's just a requirement for everything to run smoothly... hahaha
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which b18? are u talking about just putting an ls in there? cause honestly man itll be an improment over whatever motor the 86 has. its still not gonna be much. not if your talking about a b18c1 (gsr) yeah thats a hell of an improment. but then the nightmare beings with wiring it up. honestly the best bet would be stick with a b16 and just get an obd0 motor. mainly because your car is an obd0 car
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well my car is fuel injected to begin with so the wiring isn't all that bad but if you think it's a nightmare i won't do it... i actually have to go and get a second job to support this new hobby... so in a couple of months money won't be the issue... it'll be time!! i don't want just HP though i want torque also ya know?
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See here's where I need help also, I have the mounts but don't know what motor to get/use. My car now has a d15a2 DPFI motor that runs a whopping 90HP. My frfiend said to get a B18 GS-R motor because they run something like 116HP stock, But if I could get somethingsmaller with the same HP it would be a better choice in the long run as in LIGHTER for a 1/4 mile run.... Am I right or just misunderstanding it all.....I have yet to do much to ANY Honda except for a CAI, exhaust, and car audio. This is the first one I actually own so help me out.....I know about V8's and about the '96 Neon that I built up to run 270HP but I never have done an engine swap.....
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Originally Posted by PowerWheels86
well my car is fuel injected to begin with so the wiring isn't all that bad but if you think it's a nightmare i won't do it... i actually have to go and get a second job to support this new hobby... so in a couple of months money won't be the issue... it'll be time!! i don't want just HP though i want torque also ya know?
i was wondering about that, i knew the non si is carburated (spelling?) but i wasnt sure about the SI. like i said stick with an obd0 motor. but if money isnt a problem im sure you could talk to hasport about doing your harness. i know when i get around to doing my k swap im having either hasport of hondata do mine simply b/c of my lack of knowledge on wiring harnesses and i dont wanna mess it up. but sir i do commend you on picking one of the rarer platforms of honda. you should get in touch with me man via AIM im sure we could find loads to talk about and id like to be updated on the swap so hit me up
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See here's where I need help also, I have the mounts but don't know what motor to get/use. My car now has a d15a2 DPFI motor that runs a whopping 90HP. My frfiend said to get a B18 GS-R motor because they run something like 116HP stock, But if I could get somethingsmaller with the same HP it would be a better choice in the long run as in LIGHTER for a 1/4 mile run.... Am I right or just misunderstanding it all.....I have yet to do much to ANY Honda except for a CAI, exhaust, and car audio. This is the first one I actually own so help me out.....I know about V8's and about the '96 Neon that I built up to run 270HP but I never have done an engine swap.....
ok a few things. what year civic do you have? a 4th gen right? a gsr motor doesnt run 116 hp stock i think its somewhere in the ballpark of like 150-170 or something like that (b4 i get flamed i said i didnt know its just a guess)

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I have an '88 DX hatchback...And I need to correct that my car has a D15b2 engine in it, but the 90HP is accurate...or close enough.I found this on another forum... I know I cheated but I need all the info I can get.... Honda Acura Engine Codes Guide
Now if I put a B18 motor can I really bolt a B16 tranny to it? someone said I could and that that tranny has a better gear ratio than the actual B18 tranny...?

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yes if you got a b18 you can bolt a b16 tranny to it
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Re: 86 w/ a B16?

hey i have an 87, and id like to see how things went with your engine swap.

i saw a 500 hp (4th gen i think) civic sleeper, it was in a Popular Science magazine. it had the works, and i was inspired. im not aiming that high (due to cash flow) but i thought it was kick a**
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Re: 86 w/ a B16?

maybe i should put this in a new post??

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