7th Generation Civic 2001 - 2005 In the years from 2001 to 2005 Honda released it's 7th Generation Civic.
Chassis codes: EM2, ES1, EP3, EU1

Window works intermittently

 
Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 15, 2016
  #1  
bsmiley's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Rep Power: 150
bsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nice
Window works intermittently

My right rear window started working intermittently so some investigation was necessary.

I figured that it might be a loose connection since it works fine sometimes and not at all other times.
With that in mind:
I researched the power using the wire diagrams and test procedures using the repair manual I posted here (see page 2330): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz...WxhNkV6aWxTeFU

I began by removing the right rear door panel, removing the connector from the window switch and using a test light on the connector. I did not find 12v.

I checked fuse 25 and this is what I found...
Name:  IMG_20160515_120529_zpssyoj0lkh.jpg
Views: 1166
Size:  256.1 KB

So I replaced the fuse and the problem seems to be solved.

Last edited by bsmiley; May 15, 2016 at 12:26 PM. Reason: fix link
Old May 15, 2016
  #2  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 518
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Window works intermittently

So what blew the fuse?


Link goes to a body repair manual?
Old May 15, 2016
  #3  
bsmiley's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Rep Power: 150
bsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nice
Re: Window works intermittently

Thanks, I fixed the link...

No idea what blew the fuse. The wiring looked fine at the rear window. If it blows again I will suspect the window motor is drawing excessive current. But the window moves smoothly and at a healthy speed.

Fuses sometimes blow. The odd thing in my experience is that the fuse opened but was still able to make contact so that it worked intermittently. I first noticed the trouble in December. I investigated the RR switch and the master switch. I had 12v the whole time and I couldn't get it to fail.
A week or so later I put the window down about 4 inches and it didn't want to go back up. When I got home I was going to investigate it but the window went up.

This morning the window wasn't working and the weather is great today so I took a closer look.

I should have checked the fuse back in December. But I figured if the window worked sometimes, the fuse was good.... I was wrong.
Old May 15, 2016
  #4  
Colin42's Avatar
"Marge, anyone could miss Canada! All tucked away down there."
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 9,636
Likes: 1,283
From: Barrie, ON Canada
Rep Power: 222
Colin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to all
Re: Window works intermittently

Originally Posted by bsmiley
Thanks, I fixed the link...

No idea what blew the fuse. The wiring looked fine at the rear window. If it blows again I will suspect the window motor is drawing excessive current. But the window moves smoothly and at a healthy speed.

Fuses sometimes blow. The odd thing in my experience is that the fuse opened but was still able to make contact so that it worked intermittently. I first noticed the trouble in December. I investigated the RR switch and the master switch. I had 12v the whole time and I couldn't get it to fail.
A week or so later I put the window down about 4 inches and it didn't want to go back up. When I got home I was going to investigate it but the window went up.

This morning the window wasn't working and the weather is great today so I took a closer look.

I should have checked the fuse back in December. But I figured if the window worked sometimes, the fuse was good.... I was wrong.
You should check the door harness at the point where it bends and then connects to the body harness I had a couple broken wires in mine that caused the power lock to no longer function. The power window draws a fair amount of current, and if it has a shitty connection because of bad wires that may be what blew the fuse.
Just a thought.



Last edited by Colin42; May 16, 2016 at 12:34 PM. Reason: added pictrures
Old May 16, 2016
  #5  
mcnoople's Avatar
The legs in the public bathroom stall
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 382
Likes: 6
From: MURICA
Rep Power: 142
mcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to behold
Re: Window works intermittently

Did the fuse blow again?
Does the window still attempt to roll up?

Watch the dome light while pressing the UP button on the switch. If the dome light dims slightly the window is attempting to roll up. This would point towards broken wiring in the door harness which is pretty common, and the replacement harness is fairly cheap.
Old May 16, 2016
  #6  
ezone's Avatar
If you think a good mechanic is expensive, try hiring a bad one
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 32,017
Likes: 256
From: Midwest. Aiming about mid-chest
Rep Power: 518
ezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond reputeezone has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Window works intermittently

No idea what blew the fuse.
The queer electron blows the fuse!
Old May 16, 2016
  #7  
bsmiley's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Rep Power: 150
bsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nice
Re: Window works intermittently

Wires look fine and the fuse hasn't blown again.
No idea why the fuse blew, maybe it was supposed to be a 20 amp but could only hang with 10, or 12.
Window is working great.

Lesson here is always check the fuse first, even if its an intermittent problem.
Old May 17, 2016
  #8  
Colin42's Avatar
"Marge, anyone could miss Canada! All tucked away down there."
 
Joined: Feb 2016
Posts: 9,636
Likes: 1,283
From: Barrie, ON Canada
Rep Power: 222
Colin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to allColin42 is a name known to all
Re: Window works intermittently

weird.
you peeled the rubber boot back and looked at where they flex and bend when the door opens?
Old May 17, 2016
  #9  
bsmiley's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2014
Posts: 373
Likes: 0
From: Hampton Roads, Virginia
Rep Power: 150
bsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nicebsmiley is just really nice
Re: Window works intermittently

Originally Posted by Colin42
weird.
you peeled the rubber boot back and looked at where they flex and bend when the door opens?
Yes. I live in a very mild climate. The right rear is not a high traffic spot on this car.
Old May 18, 2016
  #10  
mcnoople's Avatar
The legs in the public bathroom stall
 
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 382
Likes: 6
From: MURICA
Rep Power: 142
mcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to beholdmcnoople is a splendid one to behold
Re: Window works intermittently

Originally Posted by bsmiley
Yes. I live in a very mild climate. The right rear is not a high traffic spot on this car.
The break in the wire doesn't have to be in the door with the problem. It can also be in the drivers door jamb as well. This is actually the more likely place for the break due to how much more the drivers door is opened and closed.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
morkys
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
4
Nov 22, 2015 10:09 AM
rconkin
Archive - Parts for Sale
0
Nov 14, 2015 05:54 PM
M00n3at3r
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
3
Nov 14, 2015 03:12 PM
se7en
General Automotive Discussion
14
Feb 15, 2004 02:49 PM
vistec
General Honda Civic Forum Archive.
3
Nov 7, 2001 05:53 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:58 AM.