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i drive a 03civic ex sedan my setup is tokicko blues skunk2 springs (2"drop) and megan rear control arms.

i got one finger in the front and the backs are halfway on the stock sidewalls it looks horrible! its been only a week but its getting worse as they settle ive got the back of the car jacked up at night for the past two nights to help out.

wtf do i do will a camber kit help at all? i thought skunk2s dont sag i searched everywhere!

i got pictures if anyone wants to see it, what do i do it looks horrible i took out my subs and everything and im ridin around on a quarter tank

 
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Post up some pics, that'll help people see whats going on....

 
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the first two pictures are with 2 people in the car. one girl in the front one girl in the back. my setup is tokicko blues all around megan rear control arms skunk 2 springs and no camber kit.

wtf is the problem its been a week and a half of settling on flat grounds. the last 2 nights ive left the back jacked up over night to help compensate but it doesnt help much

before the drop the back sagged. but the car had blown rear shocks from constantly driving around with ppl inside (about 700 lbs) at least once a week. trunk is EMPTY not even a spare tire. WTF my cars looks horrible and its dangerous with ppl in the car.

 
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You say it had blown shocks?

Well unless you aint changed the shocks i really cant think what it could be but i see what you mean... it should only take about two weeks for the springs to settle.

 
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on the sedans everything sags, specially with a system in the back, its frustrating, all u can do is put spring spacers in there, which may harshen ride quality, or use different springs in front and rear

 
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the rear shocks are replaced there tokicko blues. I will be calling skunk2 tech support on sunday. its sags so bad that with an 11 yr old and my girlfriend in the car it becomes dangerous the rear of the car slams...and with dudes in the car forget it lol im swervin like an alcoholic drivin on new years lol.

 
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no offense, but tokico blues are junk and cheap adn u get what u pay for. upgrade to koni yellows or kyb agx and ull be much better off

 
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eh i wouldnt say theyre junk. they handle a lowered car much better than stock shocks. and the ride is decent and smooth. i have eibach prokit springs and tokico shocks on my sedan with no sagging at all. 2 finger gap all around more or less. i even have the spare tire in the trunk and a bunch of extra junk like spare lugnuts, fuses, flares, jumper cables, etc.

 
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yea, i shoulda clarified, they arent good for low drops, they dont handle the extra stress well

 
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Did you get an alignment done yet?

 
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Sedans Sags on almost every springs as far as my research goes. You have pple riding in the back almost everyday, u feel it's dangerous. Then u got 2 options:

1. Go back to OEM Springs and Shocks Setup.
2. Save ur money and do a proper full coilover.

Coupes can get away with looking really nice with Springs on Aftermarket shocks, but with Sedans Coilovers is the only best option.

If ur lucky like gearbox, u may get away with Springs options, but since u have pple on the back u might wanna stop experimenting.

 
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what exactly would that have to do with spring sag? or are you just asking a general question

 
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i personally would not go lower than 1 inch with people constantly sitting in the back.

 
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The way the wheels look..kinda tucked in.makes it seem lower..when i installed my d2s my si's were tucked in and i was like what tha..then when i got an alignment it straightened up the rear wheels and made it seem less of a drop...you cant tell me it doesn't look like it needs an alignment..

People always want to jump on someone just for asking a question..always have a smart remark..NO i did not say it would fix the sag problem..retard

 
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kk thanks for all your replies...so im thinking since i DONT have a rear camber kit at all on the car and the rear of the car slams constantly over bumps...im thinking ordering a camber kit will bring the rear wheels outward a bit back towards 0 degrees and thus raising the rear of the car considerably. Is this thought concept correct?

as for the rear slamming...do my bumpstops need trimming? my next upgrade is wheels and tires...no way can i afford a coilover kit im kind of stuck with what i bought for at least a year for coil overs can be pricey.

 
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No camber kit will not raise it. It will just push the top of the wheel outwards, and that's it if you want to get it to zero degree. I think you should just go back to OEM springs in the back for now.

 
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lols stop smuggling drugs hahahahah just for jokes looks like u blew it. im not familiar with blues are they adjustiable?

 
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no theyre not adjustable but if the springs are more than 1.5 inch drop, theres a good chance you blew em.

 
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Yeah that's what I would think. I would say if their adjustiable he prob blew through valve but they ain't so I would say their straight blown

 
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theres no way there blown though they are brand new just installed a week and a half ago. why would they sell springs that are dangerous like that

 
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hey s*** happens some times you get faulty gear. defective from the factory

 
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so i got off the phone with skunk2 and they say its a chassis issue that the cars designed to ride that way...i even showed them this thread....the rear of the car rides like *** and now im stuck wtf do i do? stock sedans dont sit like youve got 3 people in the back when its empty. or look anything like this there is nothing they can do for me.

can someone tell me how to trim the rear bumpstops so the rear of the car isnt slamming anymore?

im going to take chassis measurements on the pinch welds underneath the car behind the front tire and in front of the rear tire tonight....it seems theres nothing i can do to solve this issue... im furious. whats a 4 door if you cant even put 4 people in your car?

i took measurements the back is only lower about a half an inch on the pinchwelds measuring the way they told me to....

 
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Hey i had the same problem on my 04 civic coupe... You put skunk 2's on it? Here's something you might want to check lol when you lowered it did you take into consideration the height of the back? if you do the same amount of threads on the coil overs the back will be considerably lower than the front, i would suggest just taking the back up a few threads and see if that helps if not, take everything off and redo it... Yeah its a lot of work but tearing it down redoing it will give you a chance to catch a mistake you might have made, not only that it but you can check for any other problems while you're there, if your going to tear it down to fix the bump stops (which i don't think are the problem) you might as well check everything out.... But like i said try taking the rear coil overs up a few threads and see what happens! Good luck, let me know what you find!

 
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Sorry for my previous post i didnt catch that you didnt have adjustable coilovers, in that case, putting a camber kit on it is only going to do damage, even getting it back to zero its still going to sag and then you will have tire rub which is just going to be expensive. If i were you i would look around ebay for a cheap set of adjustable coilovers, I know cheap means not as good but even the cheap ones should last until you can afford to get something nice. Alternatively you might be able to find a cheap set of used (good quality) ACO's on ebay, or look around on www.xceedspeed.com people are always buying selling and trading things on there you might be able to get a good deal if you do some searching. In the mean time I'll do some research on the problem and see if any of my wrench head friends have seen this sitch before.

 
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its actually not really an issue anymore since i took meausurements the car sits even under the car its the body that gives the illusion that it sags in the rear.

i took the bump stops off the shocks is there any other bumpstops that would limit suspension movement causing the annoying slam?

im in college and constantly ridin around with chix and dudes and 30s and what not in the back im about to put pillows on the back of my head rests cause everytime i see a potholes i slam on my brakes and go around it even the smallest imperfection makes it slam

 
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Well i guess my next question is, are you sure that its your shocks bottoming out? Like i said previously its not a good idea to remove the bumpstops... They will save your shocks should you happen to completely collapse them. I.e. If you hit a big pothole followed by a bump... If you completely collapse your shocks it will be worse then before so my suggestion is to put them back in... What would help is a good picture of your setup in the back... Just take a picture with the tire off if you can. Also i noticed it looks like you have the lower control arms replaced? When you put those on you have to tighten the bolts with the tire at preferred ride height that might help you out a bit on ride height if that's still an issue to you. Other than that if you can get me some good pictures of the setup in the back and also check the tops of your shock towers to make sure they aren't rotted away. Im just trying to think of some things that might make a "slam" noise when you hit a bump... I guess some other things to check would be to make sure everything is bolted up right a loose piece in there might cause a slamming sound? Like i said get me some more detailed pics and ill see whats up!

 
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yeah that was something I was afraid of happening when

lowering my s/o 4dr EL which is similar to the 4dr civic, full-coilovers was too extreme for a Daily Driver

I solved or well gambled on trying out springs for a 02-04 RSX, yes they are heavier

but the rear end did not sag at all, extreme solution, but the ride quality all though a tad stiffer was not so bad, the car has Tokico Blue shocks....

I went with Tein S.tech, and the advertised drop was 1.7 front and 1.4 rear, the result was a very extreme stagger effect.....which can be a pain to look at...

since the 02-04 RSX application worked, the EP3 application will work just as well

so in a sense wanna go low but not have the *** sag on the 4Dr civic, Neuspeed Race application can work.....I would use the EP3 application cause the spring rate is not as harsh as the RSX but still stiffer then the regular civic....

good luck


oh and here is a pic:

02-04 RSX Tein S.tech on Tokico Blue shocks: