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CAI, Hydrolock, details?

Hi,

How likely is it for an AEM CAI to cause hydrolock? Does the car have to be submerged, like some info say, or simply a "big" puddle, as in, water splashes everywhere when you drive over it??

I know the filter goes more or less below the battery, so that's wide open to water flying up from under the car right? If I get water splashed onto the filter, will that cause hydrolock??

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Hydrolocking is not bad at all......heheh

If you do this.....click the link......
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...threadid=88620


Then you get this.......
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...threadid=91395
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hydrolocking...the chances of that are only there if you are a complete dumbass and decide you want to try and ford rivers in your vic. ive ran my car through the worst of storms and no hydrolock.
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just spend the extra cash and buy a damn bypass valve
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See, that's the exact answer I've been getting, which is about as mixed as a German Shepherd-Golden Retriever-Brown Lab-Chimpanzee breed.

I mean, if I don't drive over a flooded area, then I'm fine?

I've read about that post from the dude (can't remember his name) that drowned his engine and Honda said puck off and he got the RSX-s engine... I mean, it's great with the new engine and all, but exactly how big was the "puddle" that killed his engine?? Are we talking about some tiny puddle that little babies like to jump around and play in, or something deep enough throw in a gold fish???

This is why: it's going to rain tomorrow in my area. Nothing heavy, no monsoon, typhoon, hurricane, nothing. It's just rain. BUT WOULD IT KILL MY ENGINE??? Can the water splashed from under the car soak up the filter and then choke the engine????

because, you see, that would really suck...

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No it will not hurt your engine. For you to hydrolock your engine, you would have to go through a puddle at least 10 inches deep. How often do you do that?

Even down here where I live. Anytime it rains the streets flood because we are at sea level. And it would have to rain a ton to make our streeets flood that much.
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not to mention that the bypass valve negates any gains that the aem cai creates.

and in order for the valve to activate, the filter needs to be completely submerged. the occasional splash of water will not cause it to activate.

thus, you have to be a complete dumbass to hydrolock with our cars and an aem cai.

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It doesn't negate gains from the CAI. The Bypass is closed until it loses air pressure. THen they bypass opens up. So gains are not lost.
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Originally posted by FlyRiceRacer02
It doesn't negate gains from the CAI. The Bypass is closed until it loses air pressure. THen they bypass opens up. So gains are not lost.
Actually you do lose some of the gains. AEM says (I called them) that you will lose about an average of 1 hp gained from the CAI with the bypass valve.
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lol 1 hp out of the 2 hp gained...hehehe 50% loss
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Hmm, to summarize:

the moral of the CAI story is: if the area I live in does NOT flood, and I don't treat my civic like an SUV, then the CAI without the bypass valve is ok. Basically, if the filter is not submerged in any way in the water, I'm all fine.

Whew, that's a great relief! I'm actually pretty excited... thanks for all the help guys!! :-D

ps: I'm in Toronto, Canada. Anyone from the area??

-jp
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all the bypass valve is, is peace of mind (or so its thought) for 50 bucks plus the cost to cut the pipe and fit it in. if you can put in the bypass yourself great, but time is money
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when i drive in the rain, my filter gets wet. nothing ever happens. but of course i dont drive in hugs a ss puddles
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I live down here in floodlands. I have seen 3 engines saved with the bypass valve. So I had no problem DIY, cutting the pipe and putting it in. The bypass is only like $35.
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Originally posted by jpan_home
Hmm, to summarize:

the moral of the CAI story is: if the area I live in does NOT flood, and I don't treat my civic like an SUV, then the CAI without the bypass valve is ok. Basically, if the filter is not submerged in any way in the water, I'm all fine.

Whew, that's a great relief! I'm actually pretty excited... thanks for all the help guys!! :-D

ps: I'm in Toronto, Canada. Anyone from the area??

-jp
I think you'd be dumb not to have a bypass valve installed at least during the rainy season. Just because your area doesn't flood doesn't mean deep enough puddles to f**k up your engine won't form, and at night it very hard to tell where puddles are and how deep they are. I keep my bypass valve installed during the rainy sason and take out the bypass valve when its not the rainy seaon and install a silicone sleeve to cover the gap.
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I hydrolocked a civic without a CAI. Granted it was a small creek I tried to drive though. This was was a 1981 erra model with over 200k on it, I bet it still is rusting away in that creek today actually.

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What were you trying to do by fording a damn stream in your civic. Then you just left it there?
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Seems more details are in order.

A path through the woods traveled by dirtbike is quite surprisingly wide enough to get those little Honda through.

After having previously "totalled" the car by running off the road into a ditch. The insurance company gave me the standard paperwork, but I objected to signing the car over. They gave me the "totaled" value of like $735 and told me that I would need to pay the towing company to get the car back and that they were no longer insuring the car. So I paid the tower about $150 and I kept driving the car for awhile. (yes it look bad, but I was broke)

Anyways a friend of mine (Kevin) and I were bored one night so we drove down to the powerlines where the dirtbikers go. We were having a blast going over the hills, got stuck in a rut or two, but since the car was pretty light the both of us could lift, pull, push get it out. Finally I was going down a path in the middle of the night (Rally Style) and the path just instantly appeared into the creek. Felt like hitting the ditch all over again except it was really, really loud.

Car was about 4ft deep. We walked out of the woods (suprsingly close to a school) and came back the next moring. I figured towing it out of there and the repaid was gonna cost alot more than buying a new one so we tooks out the radio and stuff and well just left it there.

I am sure the treehuggers have something to say, but hey I never seemed to have more than a quarter tank of gas and I doubt there was more than 2 quarts of oil in it so the enviro impact is about as small as anything else 2 teenage boys do for fun.

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Originally posted by LikeWEEEEEEEEEE
lol 1 hp out of the 2 hp gained...hehehe 50% loss

Seems more details are in order.

A path through the woods traveled by dirtbike is quite surprisingly wide enough to get those little Honda through.

After having previously "totalled" the car by running off the road into a ditch. The insurance company gave me the standard paperwork, but I objected to signing the car over. They gave me the "totaled" value of like $735 and told me that I would need to pay the towing company to get the car back and that they were no longer insuring the car. So I paid the tower about $150 and I kept driving the car for awhile. (yes it look bad, but I was broke)

Anyways a friend of mine (Kevin) and I were bored one night so we drove down to the powerlines where the dirtbikers go. We were having a blast going over the hills, got stuck in a rut or two, but since the car was pretty light the both of us could lift, pull, push get it out. Finally I was going down a path in the middle of the night (Rally Style) and the path just instantly appeared into the creek. Felt like hitting the ditch all over again except it was really, really loud.

Car was about 4ft deep. We walked out of the woods (suprsingly close to a school) and came back the next moring. I figured towing it out of there and the repaid was gonna cost alot more than buying a new one so we tooks out the radio and stuff and well just left it there.

I am sure the treehuggers have something to say, but hey I never seemed to have more than a quarter tank of gas and I doubt there was more than 2 quarts of oil in it so the enviro impact is about as small as anything else 2 teenage boys do for fun.

Slump

ROFL!
 
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