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Someone told me you could swap a b-series motor into our 7th gens. He said it could be done for sure, and that he is going to do it. I thought this was already passed off as impossible? If its possible, sign me up [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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plz end your life.

#1. illegal
#2. illegal
#3. whats the point if its illegal
#4. SEARCH.. BEEN EXPLAINED WHY YOU CANT.

 
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'nuff said

 
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[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif[/IMG] Not possible.

 
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well i'll cut the front of the car off for ya then go back and tell the guy to put it in.

 
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Hmm everyone in this thread seems so sure.... first off, its NOT illegal if you swap a 2001 B18 or B18C into a 2001 civic. For newer Civics, yes it is illegal. There have been rumors of a B-series swap... tell your friend to try it, and take pics and then I'll believe....

 
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well..those are the exceptions. what are the odds of finding a 2 yr. old engine in good condidtion out of all the other b18c's? not very good.

 
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if you do manage to do the swap. what about the fuel system? b series engines use a return style fuel system, so you would have to mod the 7thgencivc fuel system. then wiring would be a biotch to do. then think about the mounts, those will need to be custom. all of this would come into play, once you figure out how to fit it in the smaller engine bay of the 7thgen vic. cost effectiveness =

 
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i dont know who told you its not possible. but thats just stupid. if you cant do then post so.

 
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well whats the odds of finding that K20 everyone dreams about? its basically the same as trying to find that B18 from a Teg for the 01's.....it is possible as long as its a 01 teg its not illegal

 
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i'm not commenting on cost feasibility but i thought mohawk said Hasport was developing motor mounts for the b-series swap into the 7th gen....

 
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but at least you know that if you do find a k20, its legal (2001 civic owners at least). finding a 2001 b18 out of all the others b18....hard.

 
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i think i remember reading him saying that also

 
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Its possible. Just like everyone said a K20 was not possible. It just has a little different work involved with it. And as for being illegal.. not in some states that never check. Here in Michigan i could put a rocket motor in my civic and no one would give two *****. Be open minded people

~nick~

 
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Cambo, go watch your mouth, ya hear? And I did search, you know these search engines are crappy. For example, go to any one of the forums, and pick a random word from the subject lines, and search for it, and it wont even come up (even though the word is right there in one of the topics right in front of your eyes) Besides, my question was with a twist, not just "Does the b series motor fit" but that someone said it CAN be done although its been discussed on this forum that it CANT...... examine your own poor, unfortunate flame-happy life before you go telling people to end theirs

 
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possible..........yes qusestion is who has the ***** and money to do it.Mounting the motor and shift linkage are basically the only obstacles .Everyone is in into the K series motors cuz they are new which makes em very expensive. a B series motor is not the cheapest swap to do but still cheaper than a k20...........................................

 
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For all you people that keep saying it's illegal. I'm on your side on that one, but when people are talking about getting a new header and exhaust I don't hear all of you giving them that illegal lecture on it being illegal to get get rid of the cat or switching it out. "just get the O2 simulator" thats illegal too.

Oh but the engine swap can be done. same rule for the H22 engine, has to be the 01' if you can get a hold of one and have the skills to put it in. you have to extend the engine bay to fit he H22 engine in.

 
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Well on the whole B-series in an EM civic......not a bad idea......and HAsport didn't think so either.....i dunno if you guys read the article in Honda Tuning not to long ago....they already had the K-series in a 4 door......then the interviewer was quick to point out that since previous gens of civics had d-series in them....that were easily swapped to B-series, why wouldn't it be possible to put a b-series in a another d series equipped civic....the rep from HAsport just put on a devilish smile! Here's the answer to all your questions!

 
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Yeah Vinrock. I read that too. The only problem with swapping an engine in your car, at least where I live, is that it the engine cannot be from a year that is older than your car. So for me, owning a 2002, I couldn't put even a 2001 B-series in my car. If I did, once my insurance came due, I'd be screwed. No insurance, no car, no point, at least for me. I know this because i asked.

 
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You can put any motor in just about any car, it just takes lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and time. No one ever though a small block V-8 could fit in a Focus, but someone did it. Anything is possible, wether its legal or not is not the issue, it all about the cash, time and know how.[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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i've just seen the most idiotic posts in my life!!! WTF do u mean its illegal?!?! how many cops pull u over and tell u to pop ur hood?? how many times do u go to the smog stations?!?!(and by the way, if u get a USDM B-engine its still passes smog)!! u can have a ****in B16A(1st gen) in there and nobody would give a ****! as long as the car will run fine then swap it... and as for the people who say it cant be done...... STFU!! i heard the same **** about the k20! "oh, the motor is mounted on the opposite side, therefore it can be done!!!" what do u gotta say now bitches??

 
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no, cops can tell you to pop the hood. and some do know better. a friend of mine got caught driving in an unsafe manner in his integ in teh santa cruz mountains, cop saw he had a jdm type R engine in there and gave him a fix it ticket for teh ENGINE, said it had to go =/

I believe mohawkboom among others have been talking about doing a B18C.......

V-8 in a focus? a whole bunch of mustang performance companyies are making motor mounts for that. the first months when the focus came out, it was in all teh magazines. along with a 9 inch rear end conversion.

and wasnt it in here that someone posted the ebay link to teh V-8 converted honda accord?


yes, it is absolutely possible.

 
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ok, let me ask ya this..... would u know a JDM engine from a USDM engine w/ a red valve cover that has the "vtec" letters bigger than the "dohc" letters?? i dont think so..... the kid probably slipped or confessed that it was a jdm engine... other than that, the cop couldnt tell it was JDM!

 
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u'd be surprised by the kowledge and training by cops now. go ahead and do it, but when it fails or you get a fix-it ticket for the engine (and wasted money)....then cry your hearts out. Like it was said before, the 7thgencivic engine bay is smaller than previous generations. get a 6th gen and a 7th gen next to each other, and you'd notice right away. Yes it can be done, but not without some major modifications.

as to my first post...it is illegal in most states and its just a general rule not to do it if its older than your car.

as to the header or exhaust post.....how long does it take to put in an exhaust or header. now compare that to a whole engine, ecu, tranny, wiring and basically everything else in an engine bay. someone on this site hid is ILLEGAL headers by putting the OEM heat shield from the original headers over it, thus making it easier to conceal.

now...to the whole emissions post... your WRONG. b16 or any b series motor is LEV. 7th gen civic are ULEV, thus making the standards harder to pass emissions. LEV in a ULEV car does NOT pass ULEV emission standards.

 
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no one still answered my question about whether u could tell if it was jdm or not! and pleez, i've gotten 13 tickets alone in my civ and my license has been suspended twice and u know what, they've only popped my hood 2 times! cops around here dont usually tell u to pop ur hood, and if they did they wouldnt know wtf they are lookin at... and even if they did, they wouldnt know if its jdm or not.

 
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illegal = Prohibited by law.

thats what illegal means.

YES ITS POSSIBLE why not? it may cost a bit than your average swap, but I've seen it done. not in the states, but yeah. a B16 in a 7th gen Civic Sedan chassis. I duno about a B18 but a B16 looked fine in the 7thgen chassis.

its not about whether its JDM or USDM... its just illegal to have an older engine in a newer car. dont remember if its a varied state law or a federal law... but yeah.

will cops know? If they know they what a B16 looks like, and they know that it was only in a 99-00 Si Coupe, then they know its not suppose to be in a 7thgen civic. I doubt most cops know though, some might. *Shrug* but its illegal either way.

you can pass smog if you swap it in to pass smog, why not?

anyway, I dont think its about JDM, USDM.

believe me or not, *shrug* I could be wrong.. but eh.

 
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Some one in Tawaain already did the b series swap to a 7thgen, it was posted on this site!!