neuspeed strut tower bar installed question
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neuspeed strut tower bar installed
ok i just installed my stb that i recived from the groupbuy w/ tornactive. i torqued the bolts back to spec 33ftlbs no prob w/ a torque wrench. i took it for a test drive and my brake pedal was a whole lot stiffer. is this normal? i did nothing to the brakes what so ever i know this sounds wierd but it is completely true there is significantly less travel in the brake pedal. the car still stops ok; i am just concerned that the bar is having a negative affect on my brakes. this is the first mod i have ever done to my car so i am new at this thx in advance for any and all replys
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My brake pedal was fine. I had no problem when installing mine. I got mine from the same GB.
Results noticed so far:
1. There is this one turn that maximum speed I could take at was 60 MPH. With the bar, I can now take it at 80 MPH and still some speed left.
2. There is an exit ramp where my max speed was 35 MPH. With the bar, I can now take it at 50 MPH.
I LOVE THIS BAR!!!!
Results noticed so far:
1. There is this one turn that maximum speed I could take at was 60 MPH. With the bar, I can now take it at 80 MPH and still some speed left.
2. There is an exit ramp where my max speed was 35 MPH. With the bar, I can now take it at 50 MPH.
I LOVE THIS BAR!!!!
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Rep Power: 395 Your brakes shouldn't have been affected. The only thing that I can think of is that you bumped your brake fluid reservoir while installing and you got some air bubbles out of the system. Then you would have a stiffer brake pedal, but then that would be a good thing. I can't imagine such a situation happening, but I guess it's possible. Did you raise the front end any when installing? Then again, your struts would fall to the ground as soon as you took out those bolts if you did. Hmm... I have no clue. It must be your imagination. Although...
I bet braking is slightly improved because the chassis doesn't flex while braking. Maybe this is what you feel? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
I bet braking is slightly improved because the chassis doesn't flex while braking. Maybe this is what you feel? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 yeah it is definatly strange makes no sense to me i only removed the 2 outside bolts i did not jack the car up either the pedal was rock hard when i first got into the car but after i started the car it softend up a bit but it is definatly stiffer now i will keep an eye on it to see if anything happens. if reduced chassis flex is inhancing my braking wow i must have had a whole lot of flex going on.
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[hr]Originally posted by: rackness
... the pedal was rock hard when i first got into the car but after i started the car it softend up a bit but...[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: rackness
... the pedal was rock hard when i first got into the car but after i started the car it softend up a bit but...[hr]
Exception: You step on the brake and then turn the car off, in which case the brakes will lock after you take your foot off the padal.
And is that groupbuy still on? I'm broke as hell, but nyeh .. I've got credit cards with a little room left on them if it's still possible to get in on this ..
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[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
Actually that's normal, the brakes don't engage until after you start the car. The engine has to be running in order to apply the brakes.
Exception: You step on the brake and then turn the car off, in which case the brakes will lock after you take your foot off the padal.
And is that groupbuy still on? I'm broke as hell, but nyeh .. I've got credit cards with a little room left on them if it's still possible to get in on this ..[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
Actually that's normal, the brakes don't engage until after you start the car. The engine has to be running in order to apply the brakes.
Exception: You step on the brake and then turn the car off, in which case the brakes will lock after you take your foot off the padal.
And is that groupbuy still on? I'm broke as hell, but nyeh .. I've got credit cards with a little room left on them if it's still possible to get in on this ..[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
And is that groupbuy still on? I'm broke as hell, but nyeh .. I've got credit cards with a little room left on them if it's still possible to get in on this ..[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
And is that groupbuy still on? I'm broke as hell, but nyeh .. I've got credit cards with a little room left on them if it's still possible to get in on this ..[hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: Grey
Actually no, they work independently of the engine firing. [hr]
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[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
Actually that's normal, the brakes don't engage until after you start the car. The engine has to be running in order to apply the brakes.
Exception: You step on the brake and then turn the car off, in which case the brakes will lock after you take your foot off the padal.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: BlueFlame
Actually that's normal, the brakes don't engage until after you start the car. The engine has to be running in order to apply the brakes.
Exception: You step on the brake and then turn the car off, in which case the brakes will lock after you take your foot off the padal.[hr]
When it comes down to it however, I'm more inclined to trust you than myself. You know what the hell you're talking about ...
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Rep Power: 0 Seems like you would have brakes, just w/o the power assist.
Grey: I used that trick when I installed me and my wife's spoilers to find the right wire to hook up the brake light. Both are replicas so I didn't have a clue as to which wire it was...
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Rep Power: 303 Our brakes are power assisted, when the engine is off there is nothing assisting "pumping" of the brakes. When you start it the engine generates the pressure you need to get the braking. shut the car off after running it and using the brakes, you'll be able to push it down a couple times then it will get really stiff. after you start the engine the stiffness will be gone
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Rep Power: 395 Yeah, that makes sense. No power assist when the engine isn't running. That's why the brake pedal feels so stiff...
You do have brakes when the engine isn't running though, just no power assist. I guess it's tougher to brake when the engine isn't on. Then again, this isn't a problem unless you stall the car on the freeway. Whoops!
You do have brakes when the engine isn't running though, just no power assist. I guess it's tougher to brake when the engine isn't on. Then again, this isn't a problem unless you stall the car on the freeway. Whoops!
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Rep Power: 0 Why not just put the car in gear to undo the lug nuts? Or break them loose before you raise the wheels offf the ground.
As for the Neuspeed bar, I had to jack up the drivers side and wiggle the wheel in order to get the strut bolts to line up. But that was in the instructions.
As for the Neuspeed bar, I had to jack up the drivers side and wiggle the wheel in order to get the strut bolts to line up. But that was in the instructions.
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Rep Power: 0 the bar dropped on no prob i just had to bend the clutch resivoir bracket a hair the brakes just feel overly stiff since i put it on. i did not have to jack the car at all. i think i may remove it and compare and then put it back on. it was just wierd my brakes have never been stiff since i have owned the car even with the car off when i am starting it. thx for all the replies
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Rep Power: 0 exactly mine was mushy too now it is not it is really wierd still stops fine but harder to push the pedal. i am baffled[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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Rep Power: 0 I can't really come up with anything on that problem. Usual problems are just the opposite. Low fluid or air in the lines make brakes soft, but I have no idea what would cause it to become stiffer.
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Rep Power: 0 I KNEW it!!! So I was kinda right then. Sort of. Well, maybe not so much .. but I like to think I was, so I'm gonna go ahead and think that. Anyways, I knew it had something to do with 'power brakes' or whatever. Good to know, thanks guys ...
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Rep Power: 344 I could have sworn power assist doesn't factor in much when you're in a manual transmission... as in, the brakes doesn't get stiff even after you apply it...
cuz I apply my brakes many times when I have the engine off... when I'm rolling it somewhere or etc...
anyway. what do I know. heh.
cuz I apply my brakes many times when I have the engine off... when I'm rolling it somewhere or etc...
anyway. what do I know. heh.
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Why not just put the car in gear to undo the lug nuts? Or break them loose before you raise the wheels offf the ground.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Bartkat
Why not just put the car in gear to undo the lug nuts? Or break them loose before you raise the wheels offf the ground.[hr]
I could break them loose when they're on the ground. Yeah. Although I always tend to forget before I raise the car. That's why I do the brake trick. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
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