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What do you think? What should I change? What should I keep? Functional or not? The black stuff is rough sandpaper. The screws on the black stuff will be covered up by the black stuff (unless you tell me otherwise). Also, they will not be as flat as they look here. I will bend them to match the countours of the stock pedals. Everything is as it should be size wise. The screws are going to be exactly that size in relation to the pedals. So are the holes. They're countersunk BTW, if you can't tell...

 
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you ganna make any for AT pedals?

 
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hows yoru toe heel skill?

 
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xHoteKx: Hmm... I could. It wouldn't be too hard. I'll make a DIY and I'll have the pattern for everyone to D/L. I'll try to make one for AT's. I need the measurements of the metal piece behind the AT brake pedal though.

WhiteRabbit: Not too bad. In a front wheel drive car it's kinda less effective for cornering though. That's kinda why I brought the brake pedal and the clutch closer together in the corner.

 
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man, i dont know about you, maybe i have big feet, but haveing the brake and clutch so close at the top would really jack me up lol. maybe i got big feet or something, but i swear once a week i go to step on the clutch and wind up eating my stearing wheel, cause i hit the clutch and the brake together. it sucks, but it happens.

 
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heel/toe method? I thought it was a way to brake(foot on clutch or in neutral) and as soon as you can step on the gas, your RPMs will be matched up with you speed coming out of the corner. It has nothing to do with how the car handles. It is for shifting purposes only. It helps you brake at the last possible moment and come out of the corner quickly. It helps esp when you are following an Audi A4 to Stinson Beach. If you have ever driven there, you will know what I talking about. Lets just say you cannot downshift into second at a low RPM esp when you enter the turn at 45 mph. Second gear takes me to about 55-60 mph. How come people post different speeds for different gears? I guess it is all perspective.

 
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PoopyRay: Sorry, in that picture the distances betwean the pedals weren't correct. Here is a better picture with the right distances.



ASWZero: I think you've got two terms mixed up. Heel/Toe braking is just when you have your right foot on the gas the and brake at the same time. It's good for cornering in rear wheel drive cars since the rear wheels will spin and get extra traction in the rear and the front wheels will brake and provide extra grip. So you go into the corner with extra speed. Brake and spin the rear wheels. Kinda like drifting I guess... I'm not sure what good it is in a front wheel drive car?

 
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id say put a strip of the black stuff (sandpaper) in the middle of the gas pedal. if not for functionality then just to match the set. maybe not covering most of the pedal like the brake/clutch but like where the 3 direct middle holes are. also, good luck putting all those screws in for the gas pedal. theres a metal bar that the plastic pedal is being held by (im sure you already know this) that is a biyatch to get around. and pretty much impossible to go through...might cut through it if you try. and as far as i know, you cant take the plastic pedal off at all....soooo having 8 screws in there might be a bit much. hehe

i like the design tho...are you going for the black look?? id try to find blue sandpaper, but then again i have a thing for blue. black is cool if thats what you want.

 
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I'm kinda trying to emulate the Mugen pedal set (see pic below). I pretty much like this design. Maybe I'll put little strips of sandpaper on the gas pedal to cover up the screws. I think that the plastic on the gas pedal comes off. I looked at it and there's a fastener there. I think you can get to it from the right side (by the ECU). Anyway, I don't need to take it off. I will drill holes and use little screws (1/4" long) to secure the gas pedal. That's why I have 8 in the gas pedal. They will be going into the plastic, so I figure the more the merrier. The clutch and brake only have four each since they'll be going into the metal. I have the proper tap, so I'll tap those holes. That should be enough to make the pedals fit on tight. If not, then I can always buy longer screws and fasten them from the back with nuts.

 
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Does the gas pedal really need to be that much bigger ? Anyway, I wouldn't cover up the holes on the black pedals. Sandpaper ? Good idea. Too bad you still haven't got that CNC machine. Then you could carve some grooves in them also. I like them. Homemade stuff is always the best. What about tapping some non-countersunk chrome screws in also ? Perhaps on the corners. Just an extra touch. I'll try to make some in 3D to show you what I mean (gotta kill some time before I go to sleep anyway)

 
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Well, look at the pic below. It's going to be about that size. Slightly smaller actually. The brake and clutch pedals are definately going to be smaller though. The sand paper isn't regular sand paper either. It's from a belt sander, so it'll be extra durable. Why wouldn't you cover up the screws on the brake and clutch pedals? I was thinking of having little screws or rivets on the edges, but I tried it and it looked kinda weird. Maybe you have a better concept. I'de like to see that 3D stuff, k3wl! [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]

 
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the point of heel toe would be to rev the car while braking into a corner to let the revs match while disengaging the clutch.

it removes the jerky motions when dropping the clutch while downshifting entering a corner.

if your feet are wide enough to get both pedals, unlike me, then thres no point to put them closer together. but if you are like me, whose feet are so narrow, i can almost put my foot between the gas and brake without touching either pedal, then a diy pedal set would actually be a vast benefit.

edit: as it is now, i have to tilt my foot, and so my ability to heeltoe really suffers.

 
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That'll be awesome, Grey. If the belt sander paper falls through, you might wanna try some skateboard deck tape. That stuff is VERY durable, and it's made to stick to shoes. Your best bet in finding it is at CCS Skateboarding. BTW, what kind of shoes are those, and where did you get them? I'd like to have something like that in a red or grey instead of a blue.

 
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There is no way the accelerator is ever coming off with that many screws, wanna drop the number down in case ya ever wanna sell your car?

EDIT: typo

 
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dang, thats a good idea. thats s h i t will stick to yoru feet and never slip, ever.

 
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You can buy it in different colours too

 
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WhiteRabbit: Thanks. More info. here: Heel-toe Downshift

DcatStylee: Thanks. I might try that. The belt sander paper is tough! I think it'll last a while. If not, then sk8 board paper it is.

enzymes: I don't think it'll be a problem. I'll either replace that plastic piece when I sell the car, or I will swap it with the last model year of the 7th gen civic (which I plan to buy before I get rid of my 2001.

 
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Where are you getting your materials? I'm guessing they have em at like home depot but I haven't looked. Are you worried about your foot slipping off the accelerator? Just some questions since I hadn't though to make my own pedals until I saw your post.

 
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I actually had to buy a sheet of aluminum from www.mcmaster.com. Home Depot and Lowe's only have pieces of aluminum that are at most 2" wide. I bought a sheet 6" by 6". I also bought the stainless steel screws there. Plus I bought a tap (for making threads in holes) from Home Depot. The total cost for this project for me is: $10 It might be more for others if you don't have exactly the same materials as I do.

 
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The idea looks good. I tend to agree that you may want to use the anti-skid tape from skateboards. You could also get some non-skid tape from Home Depot (It may be cheaper and easier to get). The only issue I may see is that your feet may slip off of the pedals if you just use the sandpaper (depends on which grit) or they may slip off of the uncovered gas pedal......

Other than that, looks real sweet. Will you be selling them to people? Maybe on Ebay??? I can see it now:

Grey's "Type G Pedals" for 7thGen Civics......... [IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]

 
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i'm not real sure about the whole sandpaper idea, it would look kinda ghetto if the grit started wearing off and you had a big brown spot in the middle of the peddle. i know that belt sander paper is tough, but its not gonna last all that long is it? i think that it's be a pain to have to keep removing the peddles to re-paper it. but, thats just me. all in all though its a good design and makes you feel better to know that you made it. i do think that the skateboard tape would work better though

 
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We'll see about the sand paper. It might work, it might not. The grit on that belt sander sand paper is awesome. It's like 40 grit? Baked in there too, so it should last. I'll have more pics later. DIY too. I could make them and sell them on Ebay, but I'de need some kinda mass producing idea. I couldn't sheel out that many to sell. Not worth it probably.

 
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Get some industrial grade sand paper, the kind with glass shards in it, lol. Seriouslly, don't do that, bad idea.

 
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Yeah, that wouldn't be too smart. I don't think I could drive barefoot then. Hehe. Maybe my pedals would wear through my shoes instead of the other way around then? Hehe...

Here's another design. I like this one better. I think this is the final design.

 
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Looks good Grey- I would for sure go with the grip tape for skateboards for the reason in this one word: winter If you start putting wet feet on that sandpaper it's gonna disintegrate really quick- grip tape will last and hold tact even if its' wet.

 
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i wouldn't use just any old sand paper or grip tape. in the heat, the glue will melt right off and you'll end up with air pockets or just missing grip. i'd try to find some of that spray on crap they use for coating picknik tables. topfuel knows what i mean about the tables at school. that stuff will eat away a quarter and not look any different, trust me, i've got a 3 cent piece from that damn table.

 
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I worked on it today for a while. I'm almost done with the gas pedal. That's probably the hardest one to do. I'm taking pics for a DIY as I go along as well...

 
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How will they stay on the pedal again? Screws? you may need to drill the pedals first for the screws......

The gas pedal looks real good. I can't wait for the DIY........

 
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Yeah, it will be screws. I measured everything, so the spacing of the screws on the pattern is how they should be on the pedal. You'll see... I just need to countersink and sand sand sand. Then polish polish polish. Then clearcoat clearcoat clearcoat. Then drill drill drill. Then screw screw screw. Um... Screw in the screws that is. Then the gas pedal will be done. The polishing will take me a while though.

 
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Looks like it's coming along well, Comrade Uber-Stalker.