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Old Jul 27, 2002
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I am wondering if anyone would like to sell my a really really cheap (or free) stock header from an EX. I have an LX and I am going to try my hand at my own turbo. I am NOT going to spend thousand and thousands of dollars on a cusotm turbo or an out of the box turbo at that. I am going to tackle this on my own. I have other guys at work that have installed turbos on there cars as well. With their assistance, I feel as if it can be done. I am only going to run about 4-5 pounds of boost, so NO I am not at that much danger of blowing it up. Let me know if you wanna get rid of one.
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I have a few im sure i will let one go for u if u pay the shipping costs.
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i have to say tho...
be very very very careful trying to use an OEM header in application with a header. i dont even wanna imagine the possible outcomes...
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good luck to ya if i dint have 11 gees left to pay on mine i would be right next to ya. what turbo are you using?
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I have one i'll sell ya. You using it for an outline for a turbo manifold?
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I am thinking that you are using the ex header as an outline. right? there is know way you can use a "header" for a turbo. you can only use a turbo manifold, with a turbo inlet on one side of it.
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4-5 pounds of boost? Sounds like someone is working on an "electric turbo..." hehehe....

Anyway, even as a turbo noob, I know that there is virtually nothing that you can use from the OEM header in terms of a turbo. Hence the need to manufacture a custom turbo manifold for the application. I am not quite sure what you are up to, or have up your sleeve, but it sounds very funky, and I would advise to be VERY CAREFUL... your vic is a sweet, pricey machine... no sense in making some serious (expensive) damage to experiment on some sort of frankenstein project. EXPECIALLY if you are not knowledgeable in the area (which apparently you aren't.)


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explosivo -- electric turbos only put out 1-2 lbs. of boost...

4-5 lbs. of boost should be good enough for about 30 to 40 HP... putting an LX at 150 HP... probably would run about 7.0 sec 0-60, which would kill most other cars in our class at a stoplight. it won't blow a mustang out of the water, but that's not what i'd want to do anyway. 4-5 lbs. is a good, safe number. good luck turtle!

edit: i'm sure the stock header will be fine. everyone's freakin out about the "cheap plastic header that exploded with NOS", but that was an accident that happened with a stupid driver and too much nitrous. just make some mods to the stock one, see how that runs. worst case is you'd need a bigger manifold... but i seriously doubt that would be needed for this application.
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[hr]Originally posted by: bhayes82
explosivo -- electric turbos only put out 1-2 lbs. of boost...

4-5 lbs. of boost should be good enough for about 30 to 40 HP... putting an LX at 150 HP... probably would run about 7.0 sec 0-60, which would kill most other cars in our class at a stoplight. it won't blow a mustang out of the water, but that's not what i'd want to do anyway. 4-5 lbs. is a good, safe number. good luck turtle!

edit: i'm sure the stock header will be fine. everyone's freakin out about the "cheap plastic header that exploded with NOS", but that was an accident that happened with a stupid driver and too much nitrous. just make some mods to the stock one, see how that runs. worst case is you'd need a bigger manifold... but i seriously doubt that would be needed for this application.[hr]
cheap plastic intake manifold. not plastic header.

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i was just thinkin about this, and i dont think this is really gonna benefit you to use an OEM header as a manifold. it just make things more difficult when having to fabricate this turbo into ur car. i think you'll save a lot of headache by just gettin a custom manifold made by a shop. at this point im wondering if ur just sayin u want a turbo, or if you've really put in the research about applying one to ur car?
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if you find a way to put a turbo on a stock manifold it will definetly crack. just get one made for a few hundred dollars.
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Pseudo, Thas sounds like a great deal. Email me about shipment at Turtle to talk about payment and whatnot.

To everyoone else, I have spent many many many many hours pondering and scheming different methods of doing this. My first idea was using hte stock LX manifold and cutting hte cat off. Then adapting the turbo to that. However, the 01+ mainold s different than the old ones. A guy at work did this on his 89 w/ a ZC in it. Now I got a few more things to play with. I didnt wanna run too much boost mostly becasue of the intake manifold. the plastic just wont hold that much in my opinion. I have put in a lot of research, I dont just want one. I currently own a turbo off a Volvo, but this thing is HUGE. I am looking to get a T28 or a T3. A friend of mine has a VW new Beetle turbo with a K03. He is thinking of upgrading his and selling me his stock one. That would be a good swap. Well see. Ill keep everyone posted on this one as stuff progresses.
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lol your gonna have to put a sunflower on your dash afterwards , why do beetle owners do that ne ways?
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The whole flower thing goes back to the hippies and the whole flower power thing. He doesnt do it, nor ever will. Here is a link to him members page on our car club site. Bug Boy Its a good little turbo, and it spools up pretty fast.
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[hr]Originally posted by: Turtle
To everyoone else, I have spent many many many many hours pondering and scheming different methods of doing this. My first idea was using hte stock LX manifold and cutting hte cat off. Then adapting the turbo to that. However, the 01+ mainold s different than the old ones. A guy at work did this on his 89 w/ a ZC in it. Now I got a few more things to play with. I didnt wanna run too much boost mostly becasue of the intake manifold. the plastic just wont hold that much in my opinion. I have put in a lot of research, I dont just want one. I currently own a turbo off a Volvo, but this thing is HUGE. I am looking to get a T28 or a T3. A friend of mine has a VW new Beetle turbo with a K03. He is thinking of upgrading his and selling me his stock one. That would be a good swap. Well see. Ill keep everyone posted on this one as stuff progresses.[hr]
Don't use a stock manifold for a turbo manifold. Instead, use it to make your exhaust system like an EX's first. That's what I'm going to do first. I still need a cat, and I need the turbo manifold and turbo to be where the stock header/cat is in the LX. The intake manifold being plastic doesn't mean it's all that weak for boost. Imagine a tire. They hold 30psi. You'de only need to hold 3-4psi with no fuel system upgrades. If you're thinking of that blown up intake manifold from the N2O post, then that was due to fuel igniting in the intake manifold, not pressure. Also, a T28 is big. Too big for 3-4psi. a T25 is a better bet. It can put out enough boost to get our cars up to about 250hp. Definately not a T3 though. Unless you plan on heavy heavy heavy modifcations. Stroker kit and low compression pistons to get 450+hp in the future. The smaller turbo will make turbo lag something to laugh at. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG]
 
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