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Old May 8, 2002
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are they worth it cause i found where we can get them for only $85.00 i hear they can add as much as 20 horses!!!!!?????
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What in the world is a TB spacer???
ohh, BTW, i don't know what it is, but i can guarantee you that it will NOT give you 20 horses
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Good guess.

A TB spacer goes in betwean your TB and your intake. I would get one only as a mounting location for some nitrous nozzles. I doubt that it adds any horsepower at all.
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maybee Im retarded, but I dont understand where you would get any kind of gain[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
Like grey said,...if you need more space for nitrous to run in, but thats bout it. (If I were to run nitrous w/ my injen intake....I know I would Not need it though:confused[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG] purpose for the 7th gen[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG][IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]
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A TB spacer alone wont get ya 20 horses on a small block V8, never mind a 1.7L four. 20 horses works out to a 15-17% overall HP increase for 85 bucks. Some magic there. Spacers generally give you a liitle more airflow at high RPM but sacrifice a little bottom end power and throttle response, kinda- like a mini Tunnel Ram intake. They dont do much.
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go to google.com and type in 2001 civic throttle body, its gonna be like the fourth one down on the page and it will tell u all about it. now i know that on a stang it is one of the biggest gains u can get with boltons. but i dont know about on a 4 cylinder.
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A TB spacer is not an entire TB unit. The big HP gains you're talking about are from larger bore size on the A/M throttle body. They do flow a lot more, especially at high RPM.
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I know what your looking for biglimpdog,......your looking for the gude package that bore out your TB and all the goodies......hope you can afford a few grand.aint no 80 bones[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-tongue.gif[/IMG]

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It is called Helix Power Tower.... Do a search for it in Parts.... I have it and I would recomend that it is worth it.... I got mine from summit
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WHAT DOES IT DO AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE PICTURES OF IT????????

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NO DOT GET THIS PRODUCT! And I quote...


<< Essentially, you want swirl INSIDE the combustion chamber.

There are generally two types of combustion processes:
· homogeneous mixture, where the complete combustion chamber has a uniform air/fuel mixture, and
· stratified mixture, where there are different air/fuel mixtures, often in layers.

Promoting swirl in a certain manner can concentrate a rich fuel mixture directly around the spark plug where it will ignite a relatively lean fuel mixture that is not centrally located. This is sort of what Honda did with their CVCC engines of the ?70?s.

Inducing swirl in a dry intake manifold pre-mix does NOTHING for power or emissions. There is a lot of work done to allow a straight unimpeded airflow into the intake port, and adding diffusers defeats this purpose. These simple propellers or stamped metal fins are a sales gimmick, not an engineering marvel. Placing a diffuser inside the inlet tract will REDUCE the airflow, not increase it. Imparting a swirl to the air stream will slow the relative speed because of port wall friction from centrifugal force and the kinetic energy required to impart the motion (see prior posting).

Gaseous fuels that are metered upstream from the throttle body COULD benefit from induced turbulence, but the trend is to introduce gaseous fuels via port injection for enhanced fuel control.

I remember one such device that was bolted under a carburetor, which resembled a small propeller. The marketing material claimed that it operated like a mini-supercharger, increasing the airflow into the engine! Eventually, the one I saw broke off and lodged in the intake valve, causing piston impact and damage. Needless to say, the company was no-where to be found!
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Taken from: Swirl technology and devices?
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If these vortex things did what they claimed, every engine manufacturer on earth would be factory installing them. Hey..... let's put a 12V fan motor on the Tornado and make us a ghetto turbocharger.[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG] That should be good for at least 50HP.[IMG]i/expressions/laugh2.gif[/IMG]
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tb spacer does not cause a circular affect it just allows a up to 1000 rpm again. no the priciple of this piece is for acclerated air flow and yes to get full advanage of the spacer u need to have a throtlle body to (or have yours borred out). Where are the tech heads on this question cause i seem to know the most and this is very unusaul on this site! Thanx for the advice to those who gave it!!!
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Ya BLDOG I understand, you're talking about a straight TB spacer. My Tornado comment was about Grey's post. Hey for 85 bucks try it out.
I wouldn't expect too much though.
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That with a velocity stack could add some good hp #s.
hhmmmmmm.
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I tried the helix about 3 weeks ago...I didn't notice any kind of power gain at all. I took it back 2 hours after installing it. Go ahead and try it if you don't trust me, but you'll be sorry.
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Re: throttle body spacer

Originally posted by BIGLIMPDOG
are they worth it cause i found where we can get them for only $85.00 i hear they can add as much as 20 horses!!!!!?????
do u know that 20 hp figure was on a vortech supercharged engine?!? do we have superchargers?? no
 
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