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Old Apr 27, 2002
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Okay, I want to lower my car 1.5 inch but have no tech knowledge whatsoever. Could someone please list everything that I will need to lower my car that much correctly? I would really appreciate it. I hear so many things but have no idea what it all means.

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dude, just save yourself the frustration and have your springs installed. It should cost you between $80-$125. Figure it would take you 3-4 hours to do them yourself, (if you were somewhat mechanical) plus the frustration of getting into tight spaces and making sure you installed everything correctly......$80 is money well spent if you don't know what the hell you're doing.

Edit: BTW I reread your post; if it's a part list you need it's: springs and maybe a camber kit.
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go for the Eibach Sprotline springs..($200)
that will bring you down about 1.5...
a camber kit would be good($50-$100-not sure)...that will make it so you don't get wierd treadwear on your tires and it will be easier on the rest of the car...
to go one step further you can replace you honda struts (shocks) with Koni adjustable's...(i dunno how much...probably pretty expensive)
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i won't tell u any different......sportlines with a camber kit would set u up pretty nice
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Uh you would need to buy springs. If you are only gonna go an inch and a half don't worry about a camber kit. The front on the 7th gen civic will never camber (something about the McPhearson struts doesn't allow it to). After you install them you will need to get an alignment about a week later. If you want to have adjustable struts or a tighter ride buy some aftermarket struts.


<< Figure it would take you 3-4 hours to do them yourself, (if you were somewhat mechanical) plus the frustration of getting into tight spaces and making sure you installed everything correctly >>


It only takes about about 2 hours. I did mine in about that. As far as tight spaces not really you take off the wheel take the sturt and springs out and and you have all the space in the world.
Personally I have H and R spring on the factory struts. Really nice ride smooth as stock but a little stiffer for better handeling. In my opinion go with either H and R or Progress springs. Progress will drop you 2 inches an H and R will take you down and inch and a half. That's my 2 cents
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<< Uh you would need to buy springs. If you are only gonna go an inch and a half don't worry about a camber kit. The front on the 7th gen civic will never camber (something about the McPhearson struts doesn't allow it to). After you install them you will need to get an alignment about a week later. If you want to have adjustable struts or a tighter ride buy some aftermarket struts.


<< Figure it would take you 3-4 hours to do them yourself, (if you were somewhat mechanical) plus the frustration of getting into tight spaces and making sure you installed everything correctly >>


It only takes about about 2 hours. I did mine in about that. As far as tight spaces not really you take off the wheel take the sturt and springs out and and you have all the space in the world.
Personally I have H and R spring on the factory struts. Really nice ride smooth as stock but a little stiffer for better handeling. In my opinion go with either H and R or Progress springs. Progress will drop you 2 inches an H and R will take you down and inch and a half. That's my 2
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Here's some change [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif[/IMG].. The front camber will go off but would problably still stay within spec.. the rear camber on the other hand will be noticably off and will cause very uneven treadwear and alot of unnecessary heat on the rear tires which is not a good thing. (for racing slicks hot is good. For regular tires..too hot is not good because the air expands under heat, the tire bulges and treadwear gets even worse...

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<< Here's some change .. The front camber will go off but would problably still stay within spec.. >>


"McPhearson strut: a telescopic member incorporating damping with the wheel rigidly attached at it's lower end, such that the strut maintains the wheel in the camber direction; the upper end is fixed to the body and the lower end is located by linkages which pick up the lateral and longitudinal forces." - H an R Special Springs.


<< the rear camber on the other hand will be noticably off and will cause very uneven treadwear and alot of unnecessary heat on the rear tires which is not a good thing. (for racing slicks hot is good. For regular tires..too hot is not good because the air expands under heat, the tire bulges and treadwear gets even worse... >>


So once again the front suspension on the 7th gen civic will not camber. As far as the back an inch and a half drop will not throw off your camber enough to require a camber kit. When you get the alignment they will tell you how much it is off and you will see it is not necessary to get a camber kit. It may throw off your camber like -.1 which will do nothing to the tread wear.

<< cause very uneven treadwear and alot of unnecessary heat on the rear tires which is not a good thing. (for racing slicks hot is good. >>




<< cause very uneven treadwear and alot of unnecessary heat on the rear tires which is not a good thing. (for racing slicks hot is good. >>


Huh where is the extra heat coming from?
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I used to be a tire installer and do some alignments here and again. The front struts on many cars will not camber if the the struts are mounted on a near vertical pivot point. However our cars do not mount completely vertical. And in relation with the lower A-Arm. will cause slight offsets. (still within spec most likely.) But get everything checked before hand. Ask the alignment guy for a print out.. then lower the car. The rear will go off quite a bit if you drop more than 1" 1.5" you'll be off spec..which is why Eibach (considered the leader in aftermarket prings) reccomends a camber kit with the sportlines (1.3" drop) The fronts in pretty much all cases will not go out of spec no matter how low you go..but they will camber a little).. The rears on the other hand... those can go like "WHOA!" specially seeing as they are not adjustable, lowering the car and putting on rims with shorter sidewalls can cause undue friction and cause camber to go off more. and OEM parts do not allow for any compensation for this... a Rear camber kit for anything past a 1" Drop is Highly reccomended. Anything beyond 2" it's a Must.. the front..you can do without..but it's $25 and gives ya some added flexibility...

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