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DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

I haven't been able to find a guide for this anywhere and was wondering if anybody had a link or had done it themselves?
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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I haven't been able to find a guide for this anywhere and was wondering if anybody had a link or had done it themselves?
Its plug and play, I did it in my 04 civic ex, I didnt ground the 1 wire in the harness (directions said to ground this wire if you are using a battery operated device, which I was using my phone but would get hissing if I charged my phone and played music), IMO dont ground it.

However I just picked up a nice pioneer dvd headunit, so im not sure if I am sticking with my OEM...
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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Its plug and play, I did it in my 04 civic ex, I didnt ground the 1 wire in the harness (directions said to ground this wire if you are using a battery operated device, which I was using my phone but would get hissing if I charged my phone and played music), IMO dont ground it.

However I just picked up a nice pioneer dvd headunit, so im not sure if I am sticking with my OEM...
Do i have to unplug anything from my battery while im installing this? Also how did you find the volume/sound quality compared to a CD?
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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Do i have to unplug anything from my battery while im installing this? Also how did you find the volume/sound quality compared to a CD?
I didnt unplug the battery, it should plug right into the back of the headunit, it did on my civic.
I use pandora which streams through my phone, I also got an 3.5mm plug to mount on my center console, search ebay for "PAC iSIMPLE IS335 3.5mm Dash Mount Aux Input Kit NEW", its $13.85.

Audio and volume quality is the same as a CD, just as good as OEM!
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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I didnt unplug the battery, it should plug right into the back of the headunit, it did on my civic.
I use pandora which streams through my phone, I also got an 3.5mm plug to mount on my center console, search ebay for "PAC iSIMPLE IS335 3.5mm Dash Mount Aux Input Kit NEW", its $13.85.

Audio and volume quality is the same as a CD, just as good as OEM!
Thanks I plan on just having the 3.5mm cord come through the little shelf under the deck. Want I really want to do though is use a cord like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-RCA-IPOD-5-VOL...item2eae3d42e0

Any ideas as to where i could where i could attack the black and red electrical wires?
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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Thanks I plan on just having the 3.5mm cord come through the little shelf under the deck. Want I really want to do though is use a cord like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/2-RCA-IPOD-5-VOL...item2eae3d42e0

Any ideas as to where i could where i could attack the black and red electrical wires?
Alright I figured out what I am going to do. I am going to attach the red wire to the the fuse box using Add-A-Circuit Fuse to the Cigarette Lighter fuse then attach the ground to a screw that is right beside the fuse box. So i shouldn't have to ground HON98-Aux. Correct?
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

if you have an ipod, you should be getting the direct connect kits that use digital signal. around $70, but worth every penny. the other aux type kits are very poor quality signal and nowhere near cd quality. ive had fm modulators, aux inputs with rcas, and finally got the direct ipod kit. the direct kit is unbelieveably better. this works for 94-2005 civics that have a cd changer port on the factory deck. if you have newest gen ipod, you need an extra cable if you want to charge the ipod.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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if you have an ipod, you should be getting the direct connect kits that use digital signal. around $70, but worth every penny. the other aux type kits are very poor quality signal and nowhere near cd quality. ive had fm modulators, aux inputs with rcas, and finally got the direct ipod kit. the direct kit is unbelieveably better. this works for 94-2005 civics that have a cd changer port on the factory deck. if you have newest gen ipod, you need an extra cable if you want to charge the ipod.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Have you ever used the P.I.E HON98-AUX? I dont think so, but I do have one and it is CD quality music, I cant stand listening to radio anymore. FM modulators are junk they are never clear and always go in and out. I never had a direct ipod kit, therefore I cannot comment on that, but I would imagina that its pretty close to being the same as the P.I.E HON98-AUX.
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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Alright I figured out what I am going to do. I am going to attach the red wire to the the fuse box using Add-A-Circuit Fuse to the Cigarette Lighter fuse then attach the ground to a screw that is right beside the fuse box. So i shouldn't have to ground HON98-Aux. Correct?
you could do that or if you have an overabundance of wire taps like I do, you could just tap into the wire at the plug lol
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

yup i have actually, the sound is much better than fm modulation for sure. but i would not say its as good as cd quality. pretty close, but imo the ipod direct connect is better than the PIE. and the thing i like most about the ipod direct connect is the volume is at the same level as the fm radio, so when i switch back and forth there is not a huge volume difference. and even at low volumes, the sound is very clear and loud. with the aux rca input, i had to turn the volume much higher just to hear the music, and this ofcourse caused more distortion since the factory deck is not a hi power unit. try the ipod converter, you will hear the difference for sure. and the best part is, you can use the factory deck to control the ipod (change songs with the skip button, change "discs/playlists" from the 5 and 6 buttons, etc). with the PIE, the factory radio does not control the device at all, only volume. aside from music quality, thats what i hated most about it. now i can tuck my ipod under the seat and not have to be distracted finding songs or looking at the screen. i do it all from the factory deck. even scan function works and you can skip 10 tracks at a time holding the button down. it shows the disc and track numbers too so i know which playlist and song im listening to.
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

I actaully prefer controling the music through the ipod rather than the HU.
Will I have to ground the HON-98 if the iPod is grounded? and will I have to unplug the battery during the instillation? Will this require me to know the security code for the radio when I plug it back in?
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

only if your radio has security anti-theft feature (most oem cd players have it). if so, then get the serial number off the radio when you have the dash apart and write it down. dealer can look up the code for free. removing the battery is a safety issue, even tho usually it doesnt matter when you are just plugging stuff in. as for grounding, you only need to ground the HON-98 if you hear background noise or static while playing music.

you can control the ipod thru the direct-connect adapter too, it has a setting for either deck control or ipod control, fyi.
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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only if your radio has security anti-theft feature (most oem cd players have it). if so, then get the serial number off the radio when you have the dash apart and write it down. dealer can look up the code for free. removing the battery is a safety issue, even tho usually it doesnt matter when you are just plugging stuff in. as for grounding, you only need to ground the HON-98 if you hear background noise or static while playing music.

you can control the ipod thru the direct-connect adapter too, it has a setting for either deck control or ipod control, fyi.
Thank you very much. Using the PA11 HON will be a much easier solution then what I was going to do. I have a 3rd Gen iPod Touch, what is the extra cable I will need to charge the iPod?

Now I just need to find somewhere thats ships at a resonable price to Canada
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

if you get the PA11 HON (www.usaspec.com is the official site but the directed brand is the same thing), most newer ones come with the updated cable. otherwise you have to buy it separately. after someone mentioned that it is probably better to NOT charge the ipod in the car, i decided to stick with the old cable that does not charge. basically the way the system works, it will pause the ipod after the radio is turned off but will continue to charge the ipod for an hour until turning it off. this may cause the ipod to overcharge and possibly get damaged, as well as draining the car battery. it can also cause the battery to constantly cycle and this will give you very short battery life if you plan to use the ipod outside of the car at any time. but here is the add-on cable if you buy the older kit. seems to have an extra filter piece in the cable between the connectors.

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-USA-SPEC-CB-...item519248c15f

http://www.amazon.com/Spec-CB-PA85-i.../dp/B001T9AG5A

there is also another cable that allows you to keep any add-on device that was previously plugged into the factory cd changer port such as a separate cd player or changer, in dash unit, or nav system. i think this cable also comes with the newer usa spec packages. but is sold separately too. without the cable, you must remove any oem accessory using the changer port and plug in the ipod adapter instead.

this is what you will get if you order the black unit on ebay that does not support charging newer ipods. everything else works fine, just no charge function. there are dip switches on the unit for selecting "playlist" mode which only the factory radio controls the ipod, or "direct" mode where only the ipod is used to control the music. the unit also comes with a pair of rca inputs for hooking up a second device (much like the PIE unit). and you will need to flip one of the switches to turn the rca part on if you plan to use it.

overall id say its a very good solution, and i dont mind charging the ipod on the computer instead of the car. the conversion has its hiccups since it wasnt made by apple for apple, but overall it works like its supposed to. just remember to name your playlists (you can have 5 total) properly: HONDA1, HONDA2, HONDA3, HONDA4, HONDA5 exactly like that in all caps and no space between the honda and the number. after that label, you can add any text you want.

here is what mine looks like with just the basic kit from the first ebay link, no new charging cable or anything (5G ipod nano). i stuffed the actual brain box behind the glove box and ran the ipod dock cable to under the passenger seat. very easy to take the ipod out if i want, and its out of the way.

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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

just another quick update after i finally figured out how to get this thing working properly.

1. make sure you name the playlists properly (HONDA1, etc). and try to have songs in all 5 playlists you make. do not make more or less than 5. otherwise the adapter tends to get confused when switching playlists. disc 6 i think is like a random mode where it plays songs from all playlists. otherwise disc 1-5 is actually playlist 1-5 on the ipod.

2. if you stick with the cable that does not charge, the ipod will automatically turn off in a few mins after the radio/car has been turned off. if you get the charging cable, it will charge for an hour after the radio/car is turned off.

3. sound quality is very good from a factory receiver and low level infinity speakers. i was thinking about swapping in the higher power ex cd player, but i like the larger lcd on the dx stereo. sounds just like cd, crisp with good bass. i have bass at +4 and treble at 0. you may need to raise the treble if you have factory speakers, they tend to be a bit muffled. even at low volume, the sound is super clear. i do not use any ipod EQ settings, they all suck. i am very picky about sound quality and this setup is amazing.

4. if you plan to switch between playlist and direct modes alot, you may want to mount the converter brain somewhere that you can reach it to adjust the dip switches. otherwise just hide the unit and stuff it away somewhere. make sure you fully seat the cd changer connector in the factory deck. its not a perfect fit and you will need to push it hard to be sure it lines up properly.
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

Originally Posted by gearbox
ipod direct connect is the volume is at the same level as the fm radio, so when i switch back and forth there is not a huge volume difference. and even at low volumes, the sound is very clear and loud. with the aux rca input, i had to turn the volume much higher just to hear the music, and this ofcourse caused more distortion since the factory deck is not a hi power unit.
Thats strange, if the volume was turned all the way down on my droid I would have to turn up the stock hu which would give me unclear music, but since I have my droids volume 1 bar below max I dont notice any differences between quality or volume.

EDIT: I just read you had a dx head unit, my car is an EX, so maybe the better quality music I am getting from this is partly due to the headunit..

Originally Posted by gearbox
you only need to ground the HON-98 if you hear background noise or static while playing music.
On the P.I.E HON98-AUX I got, it said only ground the wire if you were using a battery operated device, one that will not be charged in the car. Since I used my droid it was fine but as soon as i plugged it in to charge I got the noise, then just ungrounded that wire its been fine since.

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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

I Have an 05 Honda civic WHERE do you screw the hon98-aux box!? everything else i understand i just don't know where to put the box.
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Re: DIY P.I.E HON98-AUX installation in RSX

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I Have an 05 Honda civic WHERE do you screw the hon98-aux box!? everything else i understand i just don't know where to put the box.
I zip tied mine to the metal support bracket behind where the cup holders would be.
 
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