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Old Jun 3, 2002
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I think it is very ricey to have a dual exhaust on a 4 cylinder car. But I am sure it would look good, it is just your personal preference.
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[hr]Originally posted by: CivicRacer5
Hey im pretty sure im getting a Y pipe run and another muffler put on and i was wondering if i should go with it because it is an awesome deal or if it is going to make me lose HP?[hr]


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2k1coupe.. did you just compare a 6 banger to a 4 banger?..
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For the love of god, don´t do it,. Last week at the track, there was this pimped out civic, it had dual exhausts, body kit, generic sri, lowered more than 2 inches, wheels, and it had so much stickers that it looked like an ice cream truck. My car is stock. I told the guy if he wanted to race, and he said yes. So we line up, and the guy fouls, then I take off. By the start, he already had about one car advantage. I caught up to him, passed him, and still came in one second faster than him. Afterwards his car couldn´t be turned on, LOL he had to tow it
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[hr]Originally posted by: h2k1ex
For the love of god, don´t do it,. Last week at the track, there was this pimped out civic, it had dual exhausts, body kit, generic sri, lowered more than 2 inches, wheels, and it had so much stickers that it looked like an ice cream truck. My car is stock. I told the guy if he wanted to race, and he said yes. So we line up, and the guy fouls, then I take off. By the start, he already had about one car advantage. I caught up to him, passed him, and still came in one second faster than him. Afterwards his car couldn´t be turned on, LOL he had to tow it [hr]
LOL that is great. Yeah dual exhaust may look all right to some people but it just comes down to what you really want. My sisters EX BF did the dual exhaust on his Neon and to me it looks ok but still its a neon. I don't care for the dual exhaust on the civic but if you find it will look better on your civic I say go for it. Just my $.02

That is so funny though had to have his [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG] towed

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i asked about that for my civic. the welding guy told me there was a good chance it would melt the fuel line. something that i think is worth not melting. :-)
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what ever floats your boat, if your worried about the fuel line, just get a steel braided line in place of the plastic 1
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Ok I read enough what is wrong with all of you? Dual exhaust doesnt make the car go any faster or slower. I have a 02 civic with a DC Sports dual set up and my car is the same horsepower ( not FASTER not SLOWER ). If one of you think for a second that your exhaust is a huge factor in making your civics go faster then you are the stupidest *** I ever met. Lets face it civics unless built will get beat by most cars, trucks and suv's. Do it ?! Dont do it its up to you and as far as ricey ISNT EVERYTHING??!!
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Originally posted by CivicRacer5
OH no i want it to be loud and have more power!
hahaha... ricer comment of the year!!!

whats even more rice than a dual exhaust on a 4 cyl. is a dummy kit.... thats kinda like adding fog lights to your car that dont even work....
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Originally posted by Snowman
Going with a dummy kit is going to make you look stupid in the winter. There's vapor coming out of one them and nothing out of the other.
lmao thats funny
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Originally posted by CivicVTec
It shouldnt lose any power...just ricey
i talked to the guy at the muffler shop and he said that if you were to run it from a Y pipe that the d17 wouldn't push enough gas to make any gains
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Originally posted by Snowman
Going with a dummy kit is going to make you look stupid in the winter. There's vapor coming out of one them and nothing out of the other.
LOL i have seen that!!
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WHY????????? for the love of God WHY???? that is just wrong. that's more wrong than roseanne arnold in a thong topless. My point is some things just shouldn't be done.
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Dual exhaust on a Civic. Yea, you'll gain Horsepower. I think gain is like 1 HP. The one in the drivers seats

Just get normal cat-back exhaust, save some backpressure for love of god.
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get a turbo before you do it, then no1 can say anything negative
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Originally posted by AzNmiKex215
get a turbo before you do it, then no1 can say anything negative
im going dauls later only cause it looks better having to two that one.i'm running turbo so losing back pressure is no concern it actually will help get the spent exhaust gas out faster.
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taken from team-integra.net...

A common mistake sometimes talked about in "tuner" magazines is that you need some backpressure for the system to flow properly. This is a myth created by amateur testing methods. You can see the exhaust here is properly sized and will get the best performance out of any other sizes, bigger or smaller. So because it outperforms the bigger exhaust they just assume that backpressure was the key to success here. As you can see from this picture, they are wrong. The reason this exhaust performed the best was because the pulses were perfectly in line and able to draw each other out of the exhaust at the highest velocity possible.




this is why 3 inch piping is good for FI


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in other words, its the SIZE of the piping that matters... not if its dual or single...
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You got a few points bro....great post....guys aprove his post those are very informative diagrams
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Wow! That clears up quite a few questions. Thank you.
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Wow dual exhaust. . So you picked up that NSX huh? Oh nevermind. . . .


NOOOOO not on a Civic. Just isn't right. I laugh when I see a Civic, or Neon, or Cavalier with duals. Just not very . . . umm what's the word I'm looking for. . . pratical .

In reality, it's probably not going to do anything for power. However you might be able to get it to sound good. I did see this Cavalier once and after I laughed, I was like, "hey that sounds pretty good". Anyways. seems ricey to mee, but it's you car. If you want it .. go for it.
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just don't shove two of those fart cannons on the end of your pipes. Pick out 2 classy looking oval shapped exhausts with single oem looking tips
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smack me if i'm wrong, but doesn't dual or single matter, especially if piping diameter matters?

2x 2.25 piping equals 4.5" of piping total. Unless, you're getting 1.125 piping on both sides ...which is pretty pointless.

Dual exhausts are ricey. Somebody said: "so isn't everything else?" Yes, that's why you don't do it! Interesting how the word rice gets thrown out so much, and yet ppl are so compelled to rice up their cars.

Somebody said in a previous thread that Accord V6 has a dual exhaust, therefore why can't we ....well if you knew how engines were, you would know that those are functional dual exhausts. V6 uses headers because of its V block, our cars use a single header.

Please, one loud muffler in a car is bad enough ...the way ppl drop their money on cars...

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plus dont forget the weight dual exhaust will add to our cars.
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I think the word "rice" is way too overused, rice is all opinion based. There is no concrete definition, so why use it so much. It is all relative. What one thinks is rice, another may love. Try to convince someone to not do something based on concrete evidence using facts. That is much more beneficial then throwing out a word whose meaning varies.
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Originally posted by xX03EXx
I think the word "rice" is way too overused, rice is all opinion based. There is no concrete definition, so why use it so much. It is all relative. What one thinks is rice, another may love. Try to convince someone to not do something based on concrete evidence using facts. That is much more beneficial then throwing out a word whose meaning varies.
On that same note the person that likes it may consider it ricey. . I know a guy that told me he was going to rice out his Civic. He considers it ricey, but he likes it. Anyways. IMO my defintion of ricey is anything that isn't pratical, or some false advertisting. Dual exhaust fits in both categories. . Again, just my opinion.
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is it just me or does that guys "informative" pictures remind you of the sperm pictures in health and biology class ?
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Originally posted by evol
is it just me or does that guys "informative" pictures remind you of the sperm pictures in health and biology class ?
I'm going to say no..
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Originally posted by aki
smack me if i'm wrong, but doesn't dual or single matter, especially if piping diameter matters?

2x 2.25 piping equals 4.5" of piping total. Unless, you're getting 1.125 piping on both sides ...which is pretty pointless.
Well im not gonna smack you cause im a nice guy.
2 x 2.25" pipes do not make the equivalent of a single 4.5" pipe.

Ok guys, here is the facts. Two pipes will reduce backpressure, but not as much as you think. I want to show you how to compare the flow of two pipes to one.

De = sqrt(2*(D1^2))

De being the equivalent diameter of a single pipe
D1 being the diameter of the pipes u want to use

Now, as above lets take 2 x 2.25" pipes

De = sqrt(2*(2.25^2))
De = sqrt(2*(5.0625))
De = sqrt(10.125)
De = 3.1819...

So 2 x 2.25 pipes would give you about the same flow characteristics of a single 3" pipe.

Now if you want two pipes close to the equivalent of a single 2.25 pipe then you would want 2 x 1.6" pipes. That would bring you to about a 2.26" equivalent pipe.

Hope this answers some of ur questions, although im pretty sure it will bring up even more questions. lease:
 
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