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I have a DX model and i've been slowly trying to get it to up to SPEED with as little investment as possible. so far i've: put in a homemade SRI, lowered the car with HR springs, i changed the tire from the stock 70 to a smaller 60, the injector filters are gone, i shortened the throttle cable, and removed the coolant lines to the throttle body.

all in all i've gotten some performance improvement but i want more. which brings me to my question, Has anyone ventured into moving the crank sensor inorder to advane the car's timming? if anyone has i need to know if the crank sensor is fixed to the block or if it is adjustable(which i seriously doubt).

Thanks in advance!!

PS. by the way it is the first time i post, i looked through most of the threads and the FAQ and i tried the search before asking. so if the answer is out there and i didn't see, it let it slide, please![IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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hey noob! tell me about this crank sensor mod. i never heard of it.

 
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sounds like he means the timing cam gear maybe? if so, you'd be best off getting an adjustable cam gear from DC Sports or AEM. there's not a cheap way you're gonna be able to change your timing.

 
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he's talking about ignition timing not valve timing...

i dont know where the pickup on this new engine is located, perhaps a honda tech will pass by these boards.

 
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yeah i'm talking about the ignition timming. see the thing is that our crank and cam sensor setup is similar to that of the Mitsubishi Tecnica (a distributorless ignition system), except that we have HONDA complexity to deal with. anyway in those cars you can move the crank sensor by removing the base where the pick up is located(it has two bolts). you then have to create a groove (usually with a drill) to allow the pick and the base to move from side to side hence adjusting the ignition timming. and let me tell you my friends, the performance improvement is significant. .Significant power increase with almost zero investment...how often does that happen?!!!

i've performed the procedure on Tecnicas but never tried it on Honda. i've looked at our engine and as far as i can tell the pick up is located right behind the damper where a plug's wiring harness can be seen.

anyway before trying it, and i will try it,[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gif[/IMG] i just wanted to know if anyone had done it before so i could maybe get a heads up on what i'me going to find when i get down there.

 
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Ehhhmmm Advanced engine mod stuff here. I'm lost. But it sounds interesting anyway.

 
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ahahaha like there is a "significant" power increase from advancing the timing

this is more work than its worth, just leave it or see if any ignition system replacements offer variable ignition timing

edit: more detail --> sure, you'll gain maybe a horse or two, but its not worth it for the work.

 
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advancing your timing CAN create significant HP increases....

 
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won't advance the timing of the spark create knocks?[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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advancing the timming will most definately cause knocking if you don't use a high enough octane rating. in other words stick to premium gas.

 
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advancing the TIMING (T-I-M-I-N-G)

 
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WOW Avenger!!! you are one sharp fella!!

You seem to very good at spelling. NOW... if you only knew about cars. from the things you P-O-S-T, you DON'T! I wonder if you've ever changed oil, you know O-I-L, that brown stuff that you pour into your engine. You do know where the engine is...right? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-confused.gif[/IMG]

 
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hey there tough guy... if your n00b *** searched my posts instead of looking at animal **** all day you'd see i know what I'm talking about. In a strung out uber-efficient D17 engine the power advancements associated with advancing your ignition timing are not worth going into the block and moving the sensor. The HP gains are not going to be amazing, and the improved throttle response you get from advancing your timing is not worth a ghettorigged slicing and grooving sensor advancement. Perhaps there is an aftermarket ignition system that allows for these mods, in which case it would then be worth it. What we don't need is for newbies like yourself to see this and say "WOW I CAN GET 50 HP!" and then they fu ck it all up and can't pass emissions tests because their engine is out of spec. (if they can even perform the mod in the first place, which a mag racer like yourself probably can't do)

I dont know about you, but I dont usually put BROWN oil into my engine, its usually clean almost clear oil when it goes in.

 
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mag racer? have you ever been to a drag strip (and i don't mean the projects you pass by everyday on your way home). If you have, smart ***, then you'll understand what i'm about to tell you. when i initially posted i said i had done the mod in Mitsubishi Mirage Tecnica, and i said that in, THAT, car the performance improvement was significant. the car i am talking about improved from 16.82 @ 82mph to a 16.43 @83 mph with that mod alone. Now, are you following me, that's a 0.39 improvement in ET (Elapse time, just in case, cuz you don't seem too smart). if that's not significant i don't know what is.

let me tell you something else just becasue i am new to this site doesn't mean i am a "newbie" to the world of cars and much less to the world of racing. i've been a local drag racer for about 5 1/2 years. currently I am racing a 1968 Camaro. A car which I tune and drive. it runs 8.30's @ 169mph. My NHRA competion license number is 280-B, look it up. How fast have you gone??

OHH, by the way, my 2k1 civic DX has already run 15.96 @ 87 mph. How fast is yours? [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]

 
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for the last, fu cking time "he who claims to be a drag racer yet cannot spell timing" or read the post above his...



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In a strung out uber-efficient D17 engine the power advancements associated with advancing your ignition timing are not worth going into the block and moving the sensor. The HP gains are not going to be amazing, and the improved throttle response you get from advancing your timing is not worth a ghettorigged slicing and grooving sensor advancement. Perhaps there is an aftermarket ignition system that allows for these mods, in which case it would then be worth it. What we don't need is for newbies like yourself to see this and say "WOW I CAN GET 50 HP!" and then they fu ck it all up and can't pass emissions tests because their engine is out of spec
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and dont bother me again with a pm to see your reply.

 
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temper, temper[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-mad.gif[/IMG]
i am disappointed, i thought we could be friends[IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-sad.gif[/IMG]

 
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i own a 68 chev c10 with a 327 running fuelie heads... torque beast

its no 8.9sec camaro though

 
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not bad