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Old Sep 18, 2005
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dont drag the clutch alot, and when youre slowing down, try using the breaks and downshifting 1 gear.. if your goin 40 slowin down , from 4th gear, down shift to 3rd gear around 33-34mph while youre braking.. same thing for each other gear. thats how i do it , and not a problem yet, and makes speeding up after i slow down easier and cleaner on the tranny
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new question.
Is it bad to shift to fast from 1st to 2nd or 2nd to third or whatever, like do you have to let the rpms drop before letting off the clutch when shifting gears. i know it will make the ride smoother but in my car its a lil bit slow to drop the rpms after about 3-4k rpms.
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all depends on how fast your goin in each gear.. i do shift fast sometimes , but i dont have any probs with it
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What about when u want to shift fast n u add sum gas to rev match, say goin from 1 to 2, 2 to 3... Is taht bad?
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if you shift fast enough, you don't need to rev match. if you shift too slow then you have a problem. rev matching is never bad.
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If you don't let the rpms drop then you are putting more strain on clutch, smoothness=goodness for clutch.
^Shift faster granny
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Originally Posted by MajinB
if you shift fast enough, you don't need to rev match. if you shift too slow then you have a problem. rev matching is never bad.
But if u shift too fast it will jerk.
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^Exactly
Too fast and it will jerk because the rpms have not dropped enough.
Too slow and the revs drop too much and it will jerk.
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do it fast enough with enough rpms and you can "scratch" 2nd gear
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^Yeah it will thump if you let the clutch out wrong at high rpms
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Originally Posted by DDragon7
But if u shift too fast it will jerk.
if i shift way the hell too fast i chirp tires but thats about it. no jerk. idk. whatever. just make your best judgements. your not racing all the time. it depends in what gear your in and what rpms that gear is in, whether or not it will jerk when you shift too fast.
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you can always make it smooth, at lower rpms you have to shift different than at high rpms. Of course you can shift real fast at high rpms to chirp the tires, and that is a big jerk, or can shift at just as high rpm and not jerk or perch the tires.
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Ok, if you shift to fast that the revs won't match you're putting stress on the clutch, but even more on the synchros. Like someone said, you're not racing all the time. Let the synchros do their job and it will save you money in the future on fixing them or possibly a trans rebuild.
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Originally Posted by CuRiOuSfIsH
not bad for the car, just wear out the clutch faster as you said.....
as for driving in traffic, stay a good distance so you wont have to constantly engage and disengage the clutch..... which could lead to tiring out your leg and wearing out clutch.
I engine brake all the time. I ease off the clutch when I do it though. You can't do it hard. My 96 HX had 215k miles on it and never had the clutch replaced and I always engine brake before using the brakes. Basically for stuff like slowing from 70 to 40 to go through epass tolls. it just seems natural to slow the car down that way rather than braking then downshifting then braking and downshifting again.
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^^So your not rev-matching?
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brake pads are cheaper and easier to replace than the engine. that being said I always downshift to slow down.
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Originally Posted by DDragon7
^^So your not rev-matching?
I guess not. I'll admit I'm not the most technical person with cars. I drive how I drive... that's all I know.

I could be doing something totally bad, and if I am and learned the proper way I would try and alter my driving habits. I don't want to ruin my engine. =)
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this an interesting thread. i for one had to go about learning manual by myself. i've only been driving stick for little over a year now and i'm probably bringing along bad habits too since i never had a pro stick driver teach me the way....

my car is only 20k miles and since its my first stick i bet the clutch is taking wear as if it was like 50k+ normal wear LOL (damn....)

i always press the clutch pedal all the way down when shifting too
what i don't understand is this skipshifting. when i upshift, i always go in order. but when i downshift i sometimes skip downshift because i need the extra stopping power.

what's this rev match? how do you do it? i really want to know. because whenever i downshift to slow the car i always press the brake simultaneously (to slow down the car) and slowly let the clutch out so the car doesn't jerk....

as for traffic, i'm lost on that. i have bad control on stop and go traffic and also on stop signs. it's hard to explain. but i guess my best example is like doing a rolling stop at a stop sign with an automatic. i find it hard to do a rolling stop with a stick because i end up starting at 1st again while the car is rolling a little bit and then i either gas it up from there or go to second without gassing if the rpms are high enough. either way i jerk.....(how sad!)

more on traffic, it's really hard to follow the car in front of you when rolling in 1st or 2nd gear. if the rpms go low the car starts to vibrate or it kinda does a back and forth motion (almost like a soft jerk back and forth)

oh yea for downhill. i guess i'm a slow learner and most of you probably know this but if you're at a stop in a downhill, just let go of the brake pedal and let the car roll in this neutral state to get the rpms up and shift to 2nd....
i'm wondering if this is the only case where skip upshifting is good.

as for clutch riding. i only seem to ride the clutch when i'm going in reverse. because if i let the clutch pedal all the way out then it goes too fast. i just make it half way and gas a little to get it moving.

btw, i hope you guys put more info on this thread as much as you can. i'm definitely bookmarking this

p.s. i really want to learn this rev matching, heel-toe, double-clutching, etc.

oh yea, what's powershifting? my friend says its when you shift without pressing the clutch. how is that possible to do and why would it be done?

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when racing, do we shift at 7k (redline) or 6100 (factory HP to flywheel)?
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To go the fastest in our cars you wanna shift at redline, it has been proven because even though power drops off very slightly around 6500, you wanna be at higher rpms for the next gear.
Check out this thread-nothing to do with high rpms just driving clutch
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=242566
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Originally Posted by digitaldemigod
I engine brake all the time. I ease off the clutch when I do it though. You can't do it hard. My 96 HX had 215k miles on it and never had the clutch replaced and I always engine brake before using the brakes. Basically for stuff like slowing from 70 to 40 to go through epass tolls. it just seems natural to slow the car down that way rather than braking then downshifting then braking and downshifting again.
So you dont rev match by blipping the gas then releaseing the clutch. You just slow the car down by downshifting then releasing the clutch slowly? Some will argue that this is causing the clutch to work like a brake pad. But this is how my friends taught me to drive.
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the clutch isnt working as a brake pedal.. the clutch engeges the engine which under 0 throttle is revving down. this is engine braking. the clutch is only doing its job, nothing more, nothing less.
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Let this topic die already.
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down shifting isn't bad. just make sure you aren't in too high of an RPM range when doing it. i down shift and brake at the same time sometimes when i've been going too fast and need to come to a quicker than usual stop. just make sure you're using the break also while downshifting. you can't just downshift while in highass RPM's and not use your breaks. thats stupid. but i don't downshift alot with my car cause i don't drive very fast in the first place. so i just need my break pads. i use REAL breaking about 98.9% of my driving. not downshifting.
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Originally Posted by Johnold
down shifting isn't bad. just make sure you aren't in too high of an RPM range when doing it. i down shift and brake at the same time sometimes when i've been going too fast and need to come to a quicker than usual stop. just make sure you're using the break also while downshifting. you can't just downshift while in highass RPM's and not use your breaks. thats stupid. but i don't downshift alot with my car cause i don't drive very fast in the first place. so i just need my break pads. i use REAL breaking about 98.9% of my driving. not downshifting.
98.9? You positive on that figure?
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heel toe. brake in straight lines. dont brake in mid turn.



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