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what is the difference between the 01-03 and 04-05 trannys? is there any difference in the auto tranny?

 
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I.E.

LX tranny = LX tranny --- same gear ratios
EX tranny swap w/ LX --- Low Acc --- Higher GR --- more miles
LX tranny swap w/ EX --- High Acc --- Lower GR --- less miles more lower end power

these are just based to what I've read, now I haven't talked to the person who did the swap or did the swap like the one I just stated above... but I'm pretty sure 01-04 tranny's EX and LX are the same, MT to MT, AT to AT and AT to MT same models only

 
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So if I put an LX tranny into my EX I'll have higher accel and more low end power? How does that work?

 
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NO! LX means lower acceleration, but it gives you higher gear ratio so more gas mileage

 
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is the 01-02 really different that the 03-05 ? i have a 2002, ive already rebuilt mine already under warranty the 3rd gear synchro went at 30,000 and now its going again at 60,000, i wanna buy a new 03-05 tranny and install a tranny cooler

 
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^^^ ow man that sucks! get 04 atleast like i said just to be on the safe side...

 
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yeah 04......my 03 sux ***

 
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clarification on tranny's

dx/lx have longer gears meaning u stay in each gear longer.. but it also means u dont have the low end power... dx/lx trannys are good for people who go boost.. and get better gas mileage daily driving

ex tranny have shorter gears meaning that u stay in each gear shorter.. but that also means u put more power to the wheels IF you decide to go all motor.. people still boost on the ex trannys but the dx/lx trannys are better..and get not as good gas mileage daily driving compared to the dx/lx

from what i read in books is that the gear ratios for the 01-04 dx/lx are all the same..

same goes for the 01-04 ex trannys

in the long run...(dont quote me on numbers cause there not exact.. just as an example) if your driving on the freeway at 65mph on each tranny heres is how it might go but dont quote me on numbers once again.. just an example

ex tranny
65mph = 5th gear = 3200-4000rpm's

compared to the dx/lx tranny
65mph = 5th gear = 2000-2800rpm's

so at a constant speed u are using less rpm's on a dx/lx tranny in return use less gas for those of you wondering about gas mileage

 
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OK guys.... we all know the Honda trannies suck. Why don't people who's trannies grind, try some moly in the gearoil and post back in about a hundred miles or so? My 02 was grinding 2nd since new, and was no better after a fluid change by honda at 20k. I put in some Moly and now it shifts like it should. My brothers 04 Accord V6, 6speed was also real notchy and would grind a bit. Put Moly in at 200 miles, shifts like butter. He has about 15k on it now. Still shifts like greased snot.

I just don't get it. Why s everyone so against squeezing a small tube of moly into their otherwise sh*t gearboxes? You have nothing to loose. It WON'T hurt it.

My 85 Nissan truck has had Moly in the gearbox for the last 17 Years, and it still shifts nice and smooth at 152k.

Try it. You can always flush it out.

 
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ill probably try that even though i think honda trannies are definately not sucky but w/e im not here for an argument about that..... got full name for the moly you used? brand.

 
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buy some synchro mesh and put it in there.. fixed my problem right up

 
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what is moly and where do i get it ? right now im using lucas gear oil and it stops the grinding its like gear oil though very thick like 75-90

 
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Is it possible to take some some of the longer gears out of an lx/dx MT and put them in an EX MT?

 
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id assume that the transmissions only differences are the gears themselves so yes this is probably possible but the money it would cost for you to have a professional do it really isnt worth it, i would think.

 
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The problem with synchomesh is that it will wear out the synchros a lot faster! I've done some research on HT about it - apparently a few folks use it there because of the grinding issue.....But its a tradeoff I guess.

 
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I just got a 04 trans too in my 01. The 04 ones are way better. My 01 trans went out at 74,000 miles. I got my 04 trans for car-parts.com for 500 shipped too with 7000 miles on it.

 
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its really a trade off like you say.. but if your trannys already going then at least it will help extend it a little bit

 
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yes its possible and i have done it... its cheap work to do it yourself but shops charge an arm and a leg but why would you do that assuming you already have the dx/lx tranny then its just easier to swap em out

 
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Lucas works because it thickens the oil. The gears spin down faster and the synchros can grab earlier. Best xplanation I can think of. Whatever some may think, grinding gears is much worse that thicker oil.

Moly is a super lubricant. Either should work just fine. It is my personal belief that in order for Honda to make it's mileage claims they chose the thinnest gearoil possible, but it will cause grinding on some but not all trannies. Sometimes the best solution is a slightly thicker oil. SOME trannies will run better with a THINNER oil. It's trial and error. I find that a tube of Moly is enough to modify the viscosity of the honda MTF just enough AND add protection to the gears and bearings as well.

If the lucas works fine for you, leave it. It won't hurt. Though I'd never use that stuff in an engine.

Try here: http://www.forparts.com/fluids.htm Lubro Moly Products.

I use the oil as well. My own experiences have been very good with even the worst cars I had.

 
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LM2019---MoS2 Anit-Friction 150ml Provides anti-friction plating for gear boxes, differentials, transfer cases and steering boxes

^^^^^^^^^^^i'm assuming that this is what you are using...

 
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what is synschromesh? i though that was the synchros, where can i get it ? and what is moly ?

 
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is this the right moly, how should it cost? do you think its better than lucas oil ?

 
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i found another moly at this site but its mr moly is that the same stuff? or no ?

 
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I should think about getting an 04 tranny when mine breaks again

 
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That'll do. But pretty much ANY MOLY product will work just the same.
As long as it's Moly. Molybdenum Disulphide Grease. Any brand.

 
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ow ok thanks man... +REP on you bro! yeah, no difference for now, but you said it takes about 100miles to notice the difference... I'll let you know if it works for me...

 
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i ordered the Moly Gear Oil for 30bucks for an 8oz bottle from this guys>>>http://www.tsmoly.com/ts91.htm


Application

TS-91 Super Moly Treatment is an ultra- premium additive for oil used in final drives and transmissions of motorcycles(i called and they said it is also for Automobile MT application). It is compatible with all grades of gear oils. DO NOT USE IN TRANSMISSIONS WITH WET CLUTCHES.
Benefits

TS-91 Super Moly Treatment is a proprietary blend of moly and synthetic oil. Moly is a solid film lubricant with an exceptional low coefficient of friction and an affinity for steel. The moly decreases friction of the two counter-moving sliding surfaces of gear teeth by filling in microscopic pores of the metal surfaces and plating out over the surface.

TS-91 lessens metal-to-metal contact
. . . to reduce friction and wear.

The synthetic oil enhances the capability of mineral oil to retain it viscosity ("thickness") at elevated temperatures. This capability is especially beneficial when the gears run at high speeds. High speeds generate heat that causes normal oils to become "thin" (lower viscosity) and reduce their abiltiy to provide an adequate film of lubricant between the contact surfaces of gear teeth.

TS-91 enhances oil viscosity
. . . to reduce friction and wear.
How To Use

Mix TS-91 Super Moly Treatment with the oil. For mixing in a quart of oil, replace 2 oz. of oil with 2 oz. of TS-91 . It blends in readily and thoroughly simply by shaking the container for about 20 seconds. For mixing a gallon of oil, replace 8 oz. of the oil with a bottle of TS-91 . Shake well.
Container Size: 8 oz net weight plastic bottle and 1 gal. jug

 
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so i have an 02 ex auto, it would be better for me to get a 04 lx tranny?
or should i just fix the sichros that i think i messed up?

 
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i got a 01 ex auto i had to change my tranny once and somewhere in the next few months imma change it to the 04 AT trans and drop in the tsi turbo... $2185 saved up so far..... any donations, in return a ride in a turbo auto vic..haha...

 
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what is it doing? tell me about it, I might be able to help you out...

the synchros are inside the tranny bell housing<<<(oops )


so this is the syncros, i fuggin pretty sure it's inside the fuggin bell tranny... so where could it be if it's not inside the transmission?

ow you fvcker! sorry I missed the AT, I was talkin about the MT... but just to clear this out, the MT synchros is INSIDE the BELL HOUSING right?